help. dr says go to ER....but don't ever ask on here if you should if you have ever asked before.

You have asked this before & know the answer. ER will do nothing, insist on one of your treating drs to give you an appt, that is what they are there for. ER's are for treating emergencies & pain is not considered an emergency this you already know. This threatening to down a bottle of something AngMichelle is what has probably caused you a lot of grief in the past. This is how people get labeled & you know this. You have been in this way too long & know the rules.

Every few weeks you come to the forum saying should I go to the ER & its always because of pain you want to go to ER. You have been labeled as a frequent flyer to ER's in your town & they don't just label people this way for showing up 1-2 times. I do not understand why you continue to do this when you ultimately know the answer & know what will happen in ER.

We all get tired of hurting & being in pain but that is the life of chronic pain we have to get past it & deal with it. Since you can move the shoulder you best be keeping it moving. Letting it turn into a frozen shoulder is not going to get you anywhere including getting stronger pain medication. Jumping up as you described should not have caused any type of injury since you are several weeks out from surgery.

You can get mad & feel I am being harsh but you have a very long history of this sort of thing.

Hi Ang.

I'm not criticizing because I'm feeling pain that's not getting treated also. It's miserable.
Hydrocodone doesn't do anything for swelling but ibuprofen does, so keep taking that. How about heat? Can you move if you take a hot bath or a use heating pad?

I was allowed only passive movement for at least 6 weeks after my last shoulder surgery. It hurt a LOT for a couple of months too. Since I had had a major colon surgery a couple of days after the shoulder surgery, I had passive PT in the hospital and then was confined to home and had a travelling home physical therapist doing passive range of motion 3 days a week. That kept my shoulder from freezing up.

Have you even been prescribed physical therapy? Can you even get there?

just stop. I can't take this from you guys right now. I shouldn't have said that ONE comment but STOP IT.
I do not frequent the ers. The last time I was in the er was for a seizure and taken by ambulance. You can count my freakin pill bottles.
You have no idea the screams and tears I feel
I have gone through PCP, PMdr(who said go to er) and Ortho. Ortho is in surgery all night and i have been in contact with him for days.
STOP iT, stop it stop it!
please just delete this, or I will delete myself from this group. I cannot take one more person doing this, not now.
and by bottle I really meant the hypothetical, would love to drink a beer for something.
for God's sake who at the ER isn't in pain???
For DAYS i have avoided any kind of treatment other than calling my dr's bc of the crap I know ER's do.
in the past I have seized for hours on the driveway, I have had fevers over 104, broken bones and must I go on, not treated in an ER bc I know this crap.

Sorry for the post.
What if I had cancer and the pain was so bad I couldn't tolerate....I'm sure I'd get overwhelming support to "Not suffer".
I can't help that my pain originates from something different. Why should any one of us cry for days bc we'd make take up a staff times, or actually seek relief....relief is the only thing I ever seek.

STOP IT

I have edited out a word in your post & you know there is a rule about language at Healing Well.

Post Edited By Moderator (straydog) : 1/7/2015 4:34:45 PM (GMT-7)

and it just so happens I am on my way to meet with the director of ER to tell them how I was treated worse than an animal when last brought in by ambulance for seizures.....guess they feel the same way you do huh.

You can get mad all you would like but taking it out on forum members will not be tolerated. I will not delete my post above because what I said above is the truth. I do remember you very well since you joined Healing Well & started posting here in the chronic pain forum.

I am glad that you feel well enough to go meet with the director of the ER.

Ang...Sometimes we just need to hear "Everything's gonna be okay" even when we KNOW it isn't.  A kind word can soothe like a balm.  I am so sorry for what you're going through, but I am comforted that you HAVE your mom to lean on.  Like Roccky said, hopefully the exacerbated shoulder pain can be eased with a visit to your Ortho.  Could your mom accompany you to a first available appointment with him?  Please try that.

I know how frustrating untreated pain can be...sometimes even the treatments, for that matter.  I hope it helps to know that I care, cyber sis=)

Hugs~~Dixie

Dad you want to help her find a good therapist trained in CP so she can learn alternative ways to deal with pain. Unfortunately meds are Not it anylonger.

Ang has the habit of getting upset when someone tells her something she doesn't want to hear. Two months ago she came to the forum telling all of us about taking 4 pain pills at one time that are not prescribed that way & she really thinks we are going to support her for abusing her medication, I don't think. She left in a fit that day. Healing Well is all about support, but don't come here thinking you will be supported for things like that.

She is very much aware no one here is a dr & to go to ER because of our normal pain we live with daily, no we don't go there, something else she is very much aware of. No one uses a public forum to get medical advice.

She knows the rules at Healing Well.

Is ang. The one who had a negative Lyme disease test but says she has it?? She needs some individualized help. Maybe she would do well at one of those tropical rehab places. Find herself and kick this habit, or a doctor willing to do a proper weening system. It's too bad she is just trying to find someone to listen. And everyone attacks her...not cool. But she is exhibiting some dependency/ addiction behavior. But who knows,not me.

I hate to hear that she is suffering greatly. I could tell from her post that was desperately searching for answers. We all know how frustrating it is to be in pain and know that tomorrow will probably not be better, maybe even worse.

I would definitely encourage her to talk to a counselor of some type. My pain management clinic has one on site. It's not a sign of weakness, and it may help her since her other Drs will see she is trying everything to find an answer.

All of you so concerned for her take a little time and put her name in the search box up there and try adding, short on meds,stolen meds, run out of, ER, new Dr,there's afew that sshould keep you busy for awhile. You all know I play it straight with you and no she didn't like that about me as others don't as well but after 30 years as a nurse one thing I learned is if you don't tell the story like it is it will come back to bite you, patients in ERs are sick or injured that's what the name emergency stands for. Medicaid, Medicare, and insurance companies spends trillions of dollars a year treating non-emergency cases those costs all come back to the reason they charge ungodly premiums and cut healthcare in other areas, such as higher end meds we can't get? ERs have some of the most dedicated people to the field working and its frustrating to see the same ppl over and over for the same issues. Yes they're flagged, no they're not sent out without making sure this isn't something new but they're not given a good work-up costing time and money for an already known problem. I always knew and we even could bet how it would go down, patients claim to be in desperate pain, will do anything to make it stop until you try anything like steroids, toradol, heat or ice, nerve meds, and you will suddenly get a list of allergies they forgot to tell triage about or none of those work and yes even get really specific on narcotics choices! While they're in there running back and forth changing orders for this frequent flyer someone else is waiting for a room.

This isn't new to her and she's been here sometime and Susie and I as well as a few others see the signs, we've read each post, heard each conflicting and contradiction in her tales and she needs intervention here and now. As Susie said her actions and those of folks like her hurt each and every person here. Patients that abuse the system, the meds, refuse other methods and not try to help themselves hurts the chances of another CPer getting treatment at all.

The doctor's helped create this mess in her past being lax and prescribing high doses of big name meds without solid dxs on her word she was in great pain and fixed what could be found and when nothing else could substantiate all that pain she got lucky and found a Dr willing to help her undo what previous Dr's had done to her and that's titrate her down and off the meds to evaluate where she stood, a necessary point of treatment guys, she's post-op repair! How are they ever going to know if her surgery was a success? Folks that blatantly tell you they took 4 hydro 10 at one time is a clue of this is a problem and you all know we don't do that!! Why don't we? Means there's going to be a day we have NO meds! Ppl with issues of abuse don't think like that and live in the here and now, risking their loss of Pm,violation of trust from their Dr, his credibility, and yes even their lives.

Don't be so quick to judge why we do what we do here. We are choosen to support and keep watch and protect the forum from problems and issue free, keeping things out that hurt the forum or its members is part of that and we have attempted to help her for a long time and every attempt met with an excuse, a tirade, a rant until its nolonger productive or healthy and supportive to others here. We don't take these decisions lightly nor rarely as a sole decision but as a team effort. This was a long time coming and we wish her and her family the best as they attempt to get her on a road to recovery for a better healthier future.