I re-did my original post, to satisfy the naysayers!

Never the less, a pain in the rear, is a pain that can not be forgotten.

I have had mine for 1.5 years. Mine was considered a thrombose hemorrhoid, that burst. It was not in the anus, but near the anus. It did not leak into the anus, but when it hurt, it felt like it was in the anus. It hurt my body the same. Abdominal pain, scrotum pain, headaches, etc. Then just last month I realize it is not a hemmi, it was and abscess turned into fistula and now it is back to an abscess.

When it re-occurred (2 weeks ago) from the 1st burst 1.5 years ago, the pain got so bad, I could not sit or stand for more than a few minutes. I found myself laying down a lot. I even took the past 2 weeks off work. I felt I maybe had anal cancer. I finely called the doctor and went and seen him this past Tuesday - I have Kaiser. He checked and sure enough I have fistula/abscess. Only solution to him was, surgery. I asked him to give me at least 1 alternative solution and he would not. Made me a little angry with him, as surgery was his only option. I told him, it came naturally, it can leave naturally (per say). SO, I come home and research - people who had the surgery, to people who tried natural remedies.

Finding #1 surgery - A lot of people who have the surgery, it ends up coming back. Some right away, some later down the line.

I have read horror stories of people who had complications down the line were, incontinence (very scary) and some even needing a colostomy (what the?).

Finding #2 people who just live with it - I am finding that over half the people I know have it (living with, with no pain) and others who had it treated. The treated one's I know, all said it was cut open, cleaned out and left open. They were given antibiotics, to kill the infection from the inside out.

Finding #3 people who used natural remedies and it went totally away or at least made it tolerable to live with.

For me, I ask myself! Why did the doctor jump right to surgery, without giving me other options. This is not a life or death situation. It is just a pain in the rear (lol). Why can we not exhaust all other treatment, before we go to the surgery treatment?

Why have a lot of people gotten the needless surgery (setons, flaps, cutting of the anus muscle = which is a big no no (incontinence)), all to have it re-occur again? This tells me, surgery only treat the problem at hand, but not the over all source to the problem.

Surgery should be the last and final resort. Doctors do not see it that way!

I finely told the right person (my daughter, who has a step sister, who had the same exact thing as we do). She had a solution that worked and it went totally away, without surgery. It was a natural cure. I decided it couldn't hurt to try and I trust my daughters mom 100%. So as of right now, I am on that treatment which is similar to what others have stated on the internet (3 days and counting now). My 2nd abscess (1st one was 1.5 years ago) finely started draining and the pain went from an 8 (1-10), down to a 4 in just 3 days. That is already a remarkable change. I am impressed already, as just last week, I could not sit, like I am now. Draining still is happening and the natural meds I am taking religiously on schedule.

The 1st thought of others is, what am I selling or what product am I endorsing, lol? None!!! You buy this stuff right from your natural grocery store.

Others told me, I hate doctors, lol! No, I do believe there is a need for them, but they are not GOD and they are not always right! If you are to question everybody anymore and should not trust 100% your neighbors or friends, then why would you put 100% trust in doctors, who do not know where this kind of thing came from, in the 1st place?

I am not going for, I THINK THIS MIGHT WORK approach, when it comes to surgery (God knows, I have had my fair share of major surgeries, only because it was a must!).

I am keeping my fingers crossed and staying optimistic that this is working, specially because I am seeing a major change already.

Just a quick note: Up to last month, I treated it with hemorrhoid meds. It irritated it and did not make the problem go away, it made it way worse. If it was out there, I bought it, used it once or twice, then right into the med. cabinet with the rest.

When you have an abscess or fistula, hemorrhoid med. do nothing for it, but irritate it.

I am trying to get to the root of the problem, rather than buy some time and have to deal with it later.

I can truly say, I am improving tremendously and I can see life opening up again and most of all, I did not have to resort to the surgery (so far), as that is my last option. My last option resorts to, I can not walk or sit and NOTHING helps at all.

I can go further into details. Just let me know. I have been called out - your lying, it only helps you (no, I researched natural cures, before I tried it), you don't know me and my fistula, you p(o)s lol (wow), I have other problems that led up to it (I think no - the problem that created the fistula are all the same, crohns/ibs/etc...have nothing to do with it, but maybe doesn't help the matter any).

I am just trying to help myself and if I can help others (without gambling with surgery), then I feel I did a good deed too!

God bless and just know - more people suffer from these little demons than we will ever know. Most people do not like to share their situation, specially in that region and if they are minor!

Post Edited (1lesssufferer) : 3/12/2015 3:36:48 PM (GMT-6)

Ditto.

And Sci, I might not be a professional writer, but no, I did not copy and paste. This is my "TRUE" story of what I went through!
I know this is frustrating and I do not blame you for the tone of your response. Even I have been on edge for the past year. At one point, I even felt like death was a better option, rather than living with a disease. For me, I decided to live and beat it.

Oregano oil for a fistula doesn't sound right to me either. As with many others, I try to control my diet, eat well, lower my stress ect and get on with life - but when it comes to abscesses, fistulas, or other complications well I get my butt (haha) to the doctor promptly and listen to what he advises. You can always ask another doc for a second opinion if you have doubts.

There is a reason we have developed modern medicine after all..

My last abscess was very similar in location to your 'bump and hole'. By the time I got to see a surgeon, I was more than grateful for his experience and attention. That stuff hurts!

Wow, Sci
Why are you so bitter! You come across degrading and frustrated (I understand frustrated, because of the situation).
How would you like if I said: Vet, that means you are an old fart, no wonder you have a fistula, because your old butt is broken!
Lets not throw stones Sci, lets be grateful for others, who do not need the surgery, instead of showing your true colors.
And yes, I know what your going through (on this), so I do forgive you. My poor children and wife while I have been going through this- I have been so irritable and not so nice to them, up until now

Thanks Jen77. :) It's not the idea of alternative meds, etc. that bother me. Some people do great with the SCD diet, others Remicade, and still others with different options. What bothers me is that people like this guy think they have all the answers and come in swinging, that their way is the best way and they know better.

1less, I'm not bitter or frustrated....I am actually extremely happy with my life and where I'm at, even with 30 hospitalizations in the last 3 years under my belt (and in my 20s). I am confident in who I am and how I manage my condition. I just have contempt for you and others like you, and I don't want some poor newbie listening to you and think they can manage it on their own. I never said you lied about your story, but it more sounds like you're just "shouting from the rooftops" across the internet that you, above anyone else in the world, know better than those of us who suffered for much longer and actually studied for much longer.

And I'd like to point out that STILL haven't answered my question on whether or not you even have Crohn's. That makes a huge difference, and since you're not answering, I'm betting you don't but still want us to believe you anyway.

Did you read what I posted on your other thread? If not, here is what I posted:

I am glad that you found a way to close your abscess. I can tell say unless you had testing, you cannot say it was a fistula. A fistula in those with Crohn's disease goes from the intestine or colon to the outside or another organ like the bladder. The fistula often transports fecal matter to outside or organ.

I have a favor - please no more copying and pasting the above story to other threads in reply. You can certainly make a link to this post.

Do you have Crohn's disease? Those who post here do or have family or friends that do. If you have Crohn's, then you surely know that it can be a very serious disease in some people. They tend to be quite skeptical of alternative treatments particularly those that have not been tested.

So....this is turning contentious therefore I am locking it.