??? Post gone again "Lyme Lab Warnings"

???

It got deleted

Whats the issue with just putting up a non editable verison of the earlier post of mine.

I have my right to keep asking.

This fourm is supposed to be fair to everyone on here, not just people who you agree with.

 

CajunGrl, Many people wanted to talk about this issue. And yes, if they didnt want to, they could just not read it, there is a button for that, that blocks peoples posts. If you re-read the post, you were actually putting down everything I had to say, which is fine thats my opinion. I was not trying to upset anyone and I clearly started that........

Its not fair, that it gets closed because someone did not like it.

And then it gets shut down because, people argued others opinon, well you clearly did that too to me and Shutterbug.

Here some quotes to show it was a positve thread...

Heathersdad quoted


"I just read the Moderator's blog. My blog definitely is not directed towards her. She has bent over backwards in allowing me to speak my peace. She is a great moderator and has a lot of common sense. I have stated on other blogs that I am not attacking anyone in particular, but my statement was ignored. I was accused of attacking a person that I specifically said that I was not attacking! Everything that I say is ONLY my opinion. "

1hunter quoted

"I agree stutterbug,
I think this is a good topic"



Shutterbug quoted

"Many credible LLMD do not use IGENEX because they feel the lab is self serving.--- There is nothing wrong with questioning the status quo. --How many times have I read on this forum that uncertainty is like a symptom with this disease.--- I dont know what the answer is with the diagnosis of this disease, crack everyone out on abx for years?--- so I have been CLINICALLY diagnosed, never had an IGENEX test...What if I tested negative?? Does that mean I DONT have Lyme??
Everyone keeps telling motox to "Educate" himself, to do "research" for the truth, but the ONLY information I can find on the validity of IGENEX is on the Igenex websites and Lyme forums.-So IGENEX tells us their tests are reliable and valid??? thats all??? This is being "educated" and having done "research"???-- Where is this information that is being discussed????


lylaso quoted

"I appreciate this thread topic. It's ok to question. I don't think motox is trying to hurt anyone personally. It just stinks to have this disease and have everyone question whether you really have it or not. And then to discover that the most nagging doubter is yourself! "

+Lyme quoted

Motox, I am very interested in your study. If, there in fact were 5 different results on 5 specimens from the same people, then that is definitely worth questioning.

Motox,

Again, I will not continue to argue and go round and round with you. I stated what I wanted to say already. If you read the rules, you will see that bashing is not alowed whether it be a lab, doctor, member or Moderator. I let that thread go on until it got ugly at the end and you were warned. If you need help with treatment, we are here to help you, but we will not continue putting down a lab. It makes no sense and drains the energy out of everyone here.

We just had a very dear member pass away recently. Besides helping others, that is where my focus is now. Why don't you show your condolences to the member that passed away. JelaineP was her member name here.

By the way, this is my last post on this subject. It has been explained and any future posts regarding this subject will be deleted.

The problem I see is that people are not looking at the facts which is:

Fact:

IgeneX does 3 things that enable them to get better tests.

1.  They used Human specimens from early, middle and late stage lyme to make their probes.

2.  They used specimens from 3 different locations to get a good sampling of all lyme strains.

3.  They use a stronger solution to separate the bands so they get better results.

IgeneX has been under so much scrutiny by the FDA, state of California, and state of New York and they passed all the audits. They are a good lab trying to help people.

Fact:

When Quest, Labcorp, etc. make their lyme probes they used Rabbit antigens from 2 strains of Lyme compared to IgeneX who uses samples from Human lyme patients from all over the United States and Europe and from patients who had early, middle and late stage lyme.

Also, when a western blot is done there is an acidic gel that is used to separate out the bands. Most labs use a 10% gel. IgeneX uses a 12.5% gel so they get better separation of the bands.

More information:

http://www.prohealth.com/me-cfs/blog/boardDetail.cfm?id=1157982

Thus this is not about opinions, this is about why IgeneX is more accurate in their testing.   Why do people have a problem with this?   This is what I don't understand. 

When I was given the choice to have my blood sent to IgeneX by my doctor back in 2000, I said yes.  I'm happy I did because I didn't want Rabbit antigens being used.

Thus, I feel there is a difference between opinions and facts.  I would rather have the facts, but that's me.

Denise

I thought the same thing when directed to "Bunny's" site, this is not research.

motox,

A discussion about the validity of various testing methods, labs, etc. is perfectly fine but you continue to handle it the wrong way. Give it a rest already....