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Posted 10/25/2011 9:30 AM (GMT -5)
Good Morning Everyone!!

I'm feeling much much better today! Yay! And thank you so much for all your support over the weekend!

Anyway, I started taking Banderol and Samento drops a few days ago (AM and PM). I'm pretty sure that I am herxing from these. I get twitching, buzzing after taking them along with some other mild symptoms which seems to resolve pretty quickly. I am also on Rifampin and Zithromax.

Do any of you take these herbs along with your meds? Has anyone had your doc recommend taking these?

I've read a lot of good things about these but wonder what all the HW experts have to say...

Thanks!
Posted 10/25/2011 2:48 PM (GMT -5)

Interesting that you should mention that.  Remember that naturolist I went to yesterday?  One of the things I got was Samento and I just started slowly with only taking one drop this morning.  I also started Cumanda and Burbur.  Along with that we added one with grapefruit seed extract in it but I forget what it is called.  Not GSE, she likes this one better.

then I am taking liver and lymph tonics.

What is bizarre is that I am having some herxes today, mostly in my head and ears.  Certainly not unbearable but I definitely know something is going on in there.

I had stopped having any herxes and was feeling great.  Now I am herxing-still feel good tho.  I think that means I might have reached a plateau.

Temporarily I have stopped my abx and only on these for now.  My organs needed a break.

So yes I am on these also now.  I just read this morning how a dr feels the Samento crosses the blood brain barrier and was excited about it.  I'm sure that's not new news but I just read it.  And I am pretty sure it does cross because I feel it.

Posted 10/26/2011 11:31 AM (GMT -5)
scorp10,
Can you share where you read about Samento being able to cross the Blood Brain Barrier?
Posted 10/26/2011 12:13 PM (GMT -5)
I read alot of stuff and can't remember half of where it was.  But remember everything one reads online tho does not necessarily mean there is scientific proof of such...sometimes it's just opinions or thoughts.  I find them interesting reading nonetheless.


So when I said      "I just read this morning how a dr feels the Samento crosses the blood brain barrier and was excited about it.  I'm sure that's not new news but I just read it.  And I am pretty sure it does cross because I feel it. "  well that was on this particular article...it's not stating facts. 

 

But with that said, one place where I was reading this about the dr who thinks that, was

http://www.samento.com.ec/sciencelib/sarticles/herbforourage.html

Since that article, I read other peoples "viewpoints" on various blogs and forums. 

 I find it interesting to know of peoples experiences with various things.

I guess the reason why I might believe it myself tho is because of the herx I am feeling after I take it.  JMO   Of course I just started on it so we will see. 

Who knows for sure if it really does or not. 

One thing I am learning with lyme is that everybody, drs included, are still learning.

Post Edited (scorp10) : 10/26/2011 11:17:24 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 10/27/2011 2:47 PM (GMT -5)
Apple-a-day,
All you need to do is to google the terms "Samento, cross the blood brain barrier" and a whole list of things come up for a person to read!
Posted 10/27/2011 6:58 PM (GMT -5)

Traveler said...
Apple-a-day,
All you need to do is to google the terms "Samento, cross the blood brain barrier" and a whole list of things come up for a person to read!

Thanks, Traveler blush

Posted 10/28/2011 10:12 AM (GMT -5)
OH, no problem Apple!! I'm sorry to see that what I said came across that way! I didn't mean anything by it - I had a migraine! ow!
Posted 10/28/2011 2:53 PM (GMT -5)
I was taking five drops of Samento and five drops of Banderol each night this week. I was feeling pretty crappy a few days so I went back to four drops....Going back to five drops tonight. I do this twice a day on an empty stomach.
Posted 10/29/2011 10:01 PM (GMT -5)

SickTooLong said...
I've been taking Samento and Cumanda for almost a year but I'm not on any Drs meds. I'm hoping at some point something I take makes a difference.

Can you tell if they have helped youat all?  I am not on any abx currently but dr had just taken me off as they were hard on my liver.  He may want to put me back on them.  I am contemplating adding them onto what I am taking now.

Posted 10/31/2011 3:22 PM (GMT -5)
I've been on Samento for about a week (worked up to 15 drops 2X daily pretty quick). I also take Doxy 2X100 (on week 5) and Grapefruit Seed Extract. I'm feeling a lot better than I was 6 weeks ago, but I'm not sure what it was that worked (or if it's all placebo for that matter). With the Samento, besides a little dizziness, I haven't "herxed" at all, so I am not confident in is efficacy.

For the person who mentioned Banderol, I was told you should alternate Samento and Banderol every 2 weeks to avoid building up resistance to either. Good luck to all.
Posted 10/31/2011 5:41 PM (GMT -5)
I am taking the Banderol with the Samento. I think I'm on week two both at now 6 drops 2x day. I think they are making me herx like crazy. I had really bad herxing symptoms yesterday after increasing by one drop a couple of days ago.
Posted 11/12/2011 10:45 AM (GMT -5)
bump for kds
Posted 11/12/2011 2:22 PM (GMT -5)
I'm taking my dr's own label of several herbs including fresh teasel root 10 drops 2x/day, smilax glabra 40 drops and a lyme support formula which contains samento 15 drops.

At first I didn't have a herx to these. Then I added in Amoxicillian for a UTI, and I started having die-off from these. Based on this, I'm feeling more confident I have lyme (I was experimenting with the herbs since my tests were questionable).

Now I'm on board with treatment and am going to add in Plaquneil and artiminisin.
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