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*Bella*
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Posted 3/9/2012 11:42 PM (GMT -5)
I’ve been back on the Zhang Protocol a little over a month (I went into remission from it for almost 2 years, but now I'm back on), and I notice when I take Artemisia, Circulation P, and Allicin together, I get a strange feeling in my feet and legs. Is this a herx or do you think it could be side effects from taking them together? Whenever I get this feeling, I back off from taking all of them (bad, I know), and just take Allicin. When I take the Allicin alone, this doesn't happen. If it’s a herx, that’s fine, I just want to make sure it’s not an allergy of some kind.
Korissa
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Joined : Oct 2006
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Posted 3/9/2012 11:54 PM (GMT -5)
Allicin will kill candida and I know they are in the feet too. Squeeze the tip of your toe next to little toe between thumb and forefinger very hard. If it's sore, it's candida.
Could be that the Allicin is cleaning out the candida and that would be a good thing.
Just a thought.
Korissa
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Posted 3/9/2012 11:56 PM (GMT -5)
Oops, just noticed that you said when you take allicin alone, it doesn't happen so I'm probably wrong.
Traveler
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Posted 3/10/2012 7:12 PM (GMT -5)
Because I am using Chinese Medicine to heal, I would be willing to venture a guess that it could be from the Circulation P - I'm thinking that it's supposed to increase circulation??? I know I'm on something to increase my circulation and it seems to act a little bit like a blood thinner. I bruise easier and have all kinds of tinglies in from my elbows to my fingers and from my knees to my toes sometimes.
Are you seeing a Practitioner? If so I would suggest that you call them - just to be sure. Also, are you detoxing? That's pretty important too!
*Bella*
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Posted 3/11/2012 12:52 AM (GMT -5)
Hi Traveler ~ Yes, I have a Practitioner, but she only returns phone calls once per week, so I will hopefully here from her by Tuesday. I am detoxing (foot baths, sauna, and ACV), but I'm always trying to add more ways to detox and get the bugs out
Traveler
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Posted 3/11/2012 2:17 PM (GMT -5)
I don't know if this will be of any help, but I did find this site that expands a little bit on Dr, Zhangs protocol:
www.steveclarknd.com/LymeDisease.htm
Are you also dry skin brushing? This really will make a difference as well!!
*Bella*
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Posted 3/11/2012 6:26 PM (GMT -5)
Thank you for that link, I will check it out.
I was dry skin brushing, but afterward I would have pain in the lymph nodes under my arms, groin, and neck. I mentioned this to my ND, and she said she was not a fan of dry skin brushing and that I was likely making things worse if I was having pain. I always hear how good it is for detox, so I was confused.
Traveler
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Posted 3/11/2012 7:19 PM (GMT -5)
Wow! I've never heard anyone say that about
dry skin brushing. The most I usually hear is that person doesn't believe it's worth doing. I'm not a doctor, so you need to follow your Doc's advice, but I would check into that on my own also, if it were me.
It's possible that since the dry skin brushing stimulates all circulation, it was stimulating your lymph fluid to circulate more as well. When I started some herbs to help my lymph circulate better I know that they were pretty achy at first. Don't know if this is the same thing that I experienced or not though.
mercuryb
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Posted 3/18/2012 10:13 PM (GMT -5)
bella
i have stopped the HH and just doing R-5081 (as i am allergic to garlic, re the allicin) and coptis
The circulation P did not seem to do much, maybe as i am doing lots of fibrin busting and blood thinning on my own such as virastop. I have noticed some neuro improvement (better sleep) however seem to be detoxing a lot more from head (neck lymphs seems a little congested) and I find myself moving slower, a little shuffling for lack of a better word
I am more regular and have not even been doing my loads of vit c and pysllium so thats a good sign
i will add HH in a few weeks-month and see what happens, but right now the R-5081 and Coptis combo seems to be as predicted working on brain bugs
I am only doing 3 coptis a day (bottle suggests 6 a day 2 tabs 3 times a day) and likely 3 a day of R-5081
BUT on days when i feel things plugging up in bm arena, or head feeling too "full" for alck of a better word to describe, i reduce dosage of R-5081 to 2
I am sleeping much better last 2-3 nights but that maybe due to 3-4 virastop (proteolytic enzymes i take at night)
I still wake up at 2-3 am But am so groogy, i get up go to bathroom, take a few supps and fall back asleep
i am going to try a few different things before i use my 15 minute free consult with zhang (maybe in 2-3 weeks) and will post questions here beforehand and see if you have anything you want to add, if i can squeeze it in with him
sometime in next week, i will try to summarize in his book what he says for coptis, circulation P, HH and R-5-081 and allicin. the book does not really say to much on how to take other than what each supplement does and how many to take each day
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