Hansa Experience Oct 2012

Hi again all...as promised here is my first update from my Hansa visit! This is my third day here.

Wow! The biggest thing that hits me is that I have done so much healing work in the past three years..even longer, and the testing here is showing major things going on the previous lyme specialists did not catch. This is both frustrating and encouraging at the same time.

Bottom line: I think this clinic has exceptional diagnostic ability and treatment ability. As Dr. J explained (he is my doc)...he is dynamically treating chemical, physical, energetic, emotional issues almost simultaneously while he is treating you. and the medicines he gives (changed and checked daily) keep working on it.

He found the following that my other docs missed: (again...one of mine is trained for years under a top lyme doc and the other a cfs specialist ND...I am not disparaging them in any way..but wanting to point out how different the approach is here:)

-global ammonia..ammonia throughout the body. Due to lyme and another infection comingling for years. this is a big deal!

-very poor blood flow to the brain.

-neurotoxins...I did a sight test called FACT that I did quite poorly on ..showing brain disfunction

-mutliple infections, including lyme and parasites (I have been treated for these for many years..holistically)

-energy leakage from fascia causing great fatigue..heart is weak which is related

-absolutely no vit D in tissues even though I have been taking it for years. He says oral doesn't work if the cholesterol to vit D coversion is not happening..which it is not for me

-a brain issues where right/left brain not working properly..

-very poor gut ..disbiosis..again I have been trying to heal this for years..GAPS diet, herbal abx, etc.

-Vitality overal is less than 1/2 what is normal for my age...so low that medicines can't work as the body does not have the energy. Mitochondria are impaired, too.

and more stuff that I cannot remember.

So what does he do? The core of the treatment, in my opinion, is what the doc does daily in your 1.5 hour session with him...(this is awesome)

He dynamically tests with bio-resonance scanning what is going on in the boday and treats as he tests...with magnets, chiropractic tools, lasers, remedies, oils, etc.

In addition to the doc treament daily (and you get to talk with him, of course and learn so much..it is wonderful),

they do the following treatments as doc prescribes: Ion foot bath, FIR sauna, massage with far infrared biomat, gemstone light therapry, lymphatic drainage machine, Life Vessel. I have done all but the life vessel.

The people are very kind and friendly.

What is also very encouraging is the stories from people in the waiting room...about people they know who have come here. Near death, sick for year and years, given up on by docs..who have recovered completely or are way better.

So..my assessment so far is that this place is doing more and more comprehensive, specific test and treatments than many other places (I say this based on my experience of years and also extensive reading..but of course I don't know everything!!!).

And that they are helping people. I am very happy to be here and hopeful.

Also..FYI: the hotel next to the clinic is awesome! Inexpensive and very nice and they will shuttle you to the store, you have your own kitchen, and they serve a free light dinner during the week. It is all very easy.

whew..that's it. sorry so long. Hope this is helpful to people and I welcome any questions...I'll keep posting as things go along.

Blessings to all :)
N






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OMG! Thank you soooo much for sharing your experience with us! I am so glad that you feel so optimistic about the treatment you are receiving. I am in the process of figuring out where I will go next summer to hopefully finish up my Lyme treatment. I am looking at Envita and Hansa and I really like what you are telling me.
Please continue to give us updates as you can. I am so very interested in your experience. BEST OF LUCK!!

Hey Deja, Shabby and JW, thanks so much for encouragement! I am finding that my energy goes up and down even several times in a day here. (And this is not that much different from home....although I have had periods of better energy for a few weeks at a time.)

Overall more energy than when I came a few days ago. But the real test for me will be over weeks and months...having consistent stamina and energy.

I learned yesterday that you can do the Ion foot baths on hands! The doc is having me do it that way now. It draws from lymph nodes that are near the neck more than the foot bath, which draws more form the legs.

And today the Doc used the percussor (an electronic device that vibrates as he puts on the body) on my head. All over my head...it changes vibration when the bone or plate he is trying to move/unlock finally does so.

Basically he said my head was really a mess! hahaha...no comment ;) I do notice an immediate difference after those treatments....clearer head and less pressure..I have almost continual pressure feelings in my head.

For info on the underlying theory here at Hansa...you can watch the documentary "The Living Matrix" from the Institute of Noetic Sciences. They have a copy here you can watch during the ion foot baths.

It is about the theory of interconnected life and energetics ..talks about healing in that way and broad application across disciplines.They are putting it into practice here. Really cool.

That's all for now...

Health to all of us!
N

Hi Pink,

You are welcome :) and thanks for kind words!

Well...I don't know honestly. Here at the Hansa Clinic you do one every day. That is 5 days on then the weekends off.

I did one about 4 timers per week for a couple weeks before coming and did not notice any problems. I would always take an Emergen C packet before to get electrolytes. I seem to remember being told to do it for a month more intensively and then back off. Maybe that was every two or three days? Sorry don't know much more than that.

Yes, so far so good here. I have finished my first week. Just had a great doc appt. where he said the chiropractic (skull and spine) and energetic changes have been holding. I start the Life Vessel Treatment Monday and he said this can cure the circulation issue that I am having...low blood flow to the head.

I also got to talk with him at length about healing and mind/heart alignment and he told of his various illnesses and overcoming them. Very inspiring. Not that it is all in your head, but that your deepest heart beliefs need to be in line with healing.

Hi Nan,
Thanks for the info.the treatment sounds awesome!

What a refreshing change from being handed a bunch of antibiotics and told to get on with it ,without sufficient guidance.

I hope this is the first step to a healthy Lyme free future.all the best!!!!

Oh, if you scroll down on the blog above, Dr. J. talks about ammonia from hair color..

Well, I highlight my hair blonde and will continue to do so because I like feeling good about myself..  I guess I need to keep up on my detox baths! 

Denise

HI Nan,
What a wonderful experience for you ...and us!! Thank you for taking the time to post your thoughts and experiences for us!!

I would like to echo what Dr. J and Dejavu are saying. Acceptance of what you have and that you will have to work to get healthy is key! And understanding that we must change what we do and how we choose to live in order to have the best chances of healing to our full potential is part of it.

Accept that you are tired...again. Or for me, that I'm having another bad brain day. Be happy that you can rest! Be grateful to be in a place that you are being so wonderfully cared for. That's how I look at it anyway. On my bad brain days, I'm so grateful for a Hubby that understands when I tell him this - of course the jokes that come with it are appreciated as well - -

Find your Blessings in every situation and choose to focus on them, not the negatives of your situation. I admit that at times I can't see the Blessings, but I fight with all that I am most of the time to be sure I'm seeing those things.

Thank you for the updates!! Keep up the good work there at Hansa!

Hope,

You are welcome! It is in Wichita, Kansas. Yes, you can buy products. He has one for detoxing the brain specifically, and heart and the whole body. And also if you read the blogs, recipes for detox baths, etc.

Blessing to you!!

Hi Nan,

Wow, this Life Vessel sounds fascinating and sounds like it is really helping you, fantastic!

I never heard of leeches being used as medicine so of course I had to research it, duh!  I found this:

Roughly 600 leech species have been identified to date, but only about 15 are used in medicine. Leeches classified as “medicinal leeches”, Hirudo Medicinalis, in the narrower sense have been used to treat patients for centuries.

The first documented accounts of the use of Hirudo medicinalis for medicinal purposes date back to the time of Hippocrates. According to Sanskrit writings, Dhavantari, the father of Indian medicine, held nectar in one hand and a leech in the other. Leech therapy is also used in traditional Chinese medicine. Paintings of medicinal leeches have been found in pharaohs tombs. The Solomon Parables also describe leech treatment use in ancient medicine. Leech therapy in Greek medicine can be found in the poem Alexipharmacia by Nicandros. Roman physician Galen classified leech terapy as a method for achieving healthy balance. Avicenna also used leeches for healing aids. In the past leeches have proved to be the most effective treatment in many cases. Leeches were especially useful in battle wound treatment. European countries in the 18th and 19th centuries imported over 100 million leeches every year to satisfy high demand.

Today, doctors use leeches for treating abscesses, painful joints, glaucoma, myasthenia, and to heal venous diseases and thrombosis. Medical leeches are used in plastic surgery, for improving brain circulation and for curing infertility. 

The general indications for leech therapy are:

Inflammatory Reactions
Heart Diseases
Rheumatic Diseases
Tendovaginitis and Tendinitis
Venous Disease and Varicose Veins
Arthrosis
Arthritis
Muscle Tension
Antidyscratic therapy ( blood purification and regeneration) of toxicoses and mental illnesses
Thrombosis and embolism
Passive congestions and spastic conditions
Vertebrogenic Pain Syndromes
Transudates and exudates

Wishing you the best and keep us updated okay?

Hugs,

Denise

My Big Fat Hansa Update! Wow, it has been a wild couple of days. Sorry so long..lots to tell.

Monday I saw the doc again and although had some improvement in symptoms, he said that I had not improved enough given all that he had done and that usually means he is hitting up against a wall of some kind. He thought the low blood flow/jugular vein issues. So ordered another CRT for Tues.

However, these things had gotten better: ammonia out of body except for a couple spots on brain that he found a remedy for, head/cranium much less compacted, less fatigue, heart better.

2nd CRT results: Blood flow somewhat improved but still serious. Classic case of needing the CCSVI procedure in Las Vegas that opens the veins. Wants to send me for MRI there.

Rest of body: Kidneys up to 100% function (from pretty low) yes! Improvement in many other areas..like from 0% function to 15%, 15% to 38%, etc. I don't remember which ones. Adrenals and thyroid still stressed and gut still in dysbiosis. I think all of my body systems were functioning below 50% and some at 0 when I got here. Still a ways to go, too.

I asked about the logistics and cost of doing the vein procedure in LV. First: you have MRI (insurance-friendly). Then you schedule the procedure. It is outpatient, local anaesthetic. They run a balloon through the veins. No stint. You can do it by yourself if needed.

So I decided to do it...long story short...it came about quickly and Dr. J knows the doc and found an opening on Friday for MRI (today!) I got here last night on a cheap flight they helped me find. And I am by myself.

Today: MRI, x ray and ultrasound here in Vegas at the clinic. The doctor who owns this is amazing! Spent 1.5 hours with me going over it and helping me wiht further logistics.. I need the procedure for sure, ...he can tell before seeing all the MRI..but it will show him intricacies of all the flow and what specific issues there are.

AND..more...the x-ray showed my jaw and tongue are not positioned well, causing further problems..adrenals in stress all the time, oxygen, brain issues.

He said if I did not have a plate-insert made (you wear it to correct the position), I may not feel symptom relief much from the vein procedure! So he referred me to a biological dentist in Phoenix. I am going on Monday to get the measurements, back here for vein procedure on Wed and then possibly back to Hansa. I will have to come back to Phoenix for the actual palate plate in a few weeks.

Whew! What a trip.

What else I have learned: One of the workers at Hansa said the people that she talked to who have come back to Hansa after having the vein procedure were better and happy about it. It is also used for MS. I talked at length with the doctor here in Vegas about it. He has used this procedure at Georgetown and worked with other universities.

There is another Hansa patient here in Vegas for the same things as I am doing.

Both Hansa and the clinic here have bent over backward to help me..get cheap flights, hotels, make last minute arrangements, etc. The are here to help people. period. wonderful.

ALSO...I have held up and feeling good enough to do a ton of stuff! I spent a 12 hour day Thursday..Hansa, directly to airport, flight delay, drove rental car from aiport to hotel in lightning and pouring rain. Got in at 9. And slept well and still doing fine with making all these arrangements and have 2 hour MRI today!

This is a definite improvement from 9 days ago when I arrived. It really seems that when I get these structural issues addressed, the treatments will really kick in and bye-bye lyme symptoms!

I will post more as things go on.

Now I have two totally free days in Vegas! ha! I may walk down the strip just to see it and the people. and rest.

Happy to answer questions on the forum or by email if you want.

Anyone else had CCSVI procedure??

oh.....fyi...another top lyme doc..Dr. K. sends people to this CCSVI clinic here.

blessings to all!
Nan