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Posted 10/21/2012 3:43 PM (GMT -5)
I have recently been daignosedwith Lyme ad started antibioitcs three wekks ago. The dose is only 100 mg twice a day. I realize reading this is not enough to kill of the bacteria. I made an appt with an LLMD, but they cant see me till January.

I wanted to help my body fight these bacteria that have invaded my body. The first couple of times I took the detox bath, epsom salt, ginger root, hydrogen peroxide and apple vinegar my stomach seemed pretty angry. Made lots of noises,grumbling and rumbling. I skipped on day five. After starting them again the past two days Im not feeling well. Of course with the duration of the affliction my sypmtoms are all over the place. But, in the past two days I have had intense tingling and numbness in my fore arms, and fingers. One felt totally dead yesterday and it lasted for hours. I also have very rough feeling in my gut. Seems to causing me to go to the bathroom more often. This afternoon the feeling in my lower abdomen and lower back remind me of the pressure I had when in labor.

I want to help my body get rid of this disease but I do not know what is normal and what all to expect while detoxing. I hear you speak of herxing, not felling well, but not sure specifically what that feels like. I also so not feel like doing anything. My husband and I went to a car show yesterday and I had to return home after only being there 15 minutes I felt so bad.

Thank you all for sharing your experiences...helps me to better understand~ 

Posted 10/21/2012 4:18 PM (GMT -5)
Hi Confused,

I'm not really sure what is going on...  It could be too many detox baths or it could be the Doxy.  I took Doxy after my IgeneX test results came back and I didn't even know about detoxing at that time.  I really didn't know much at all back then.  scool

I will tell you this, that Doxy made me sick to my tummy big time!  Even though I took it with food.   I saw the inside of my toilet bowl more times that I wanted to!

Maybe cut back on the detox baths and see how your tummy feels.. 

Hang in there,

Denise

Posted 10/21/2012 4:24 PM (GMT -5)
thanks for your relpy! I didnt feel bad till the detox bathes. I dont think my dosage is high enoughto have an impact on my recovery. I went to an Infectious Disease specialist and he is following the guidelines 100 mg twice daily. Waiting on my appt with LLMD in January~
Posted 10/21/2012 5:54 PM (GMT -5)
After a hot bath with peroxide and epsom salts I usually feel like LEAD !!! I feel dead tired and really bad like I might black out or collapse , the heat really bothers  me

 

Posted 10/21/2012 5:55 PM (GMT -5)
Remember what we put in a bath, we absorb - whether it be Epsom Salt (which is magnesium which will can make your bowels move) or vinegar, or ginger.

When I took my very first detox bath, I herxed for 3 days straight and it got pretty intense! In ]all things move slowly, even the detox baths. Remember as you detox, it means that the toxins are on the move, making those with high toxin loads feel worse. I know I still can't take a detox bath every day!! I use a lot of the foot baths and that would be my suggestion for you, Confusedby.

LOL!! Then I had this brilliant thought idea and I bought those foot pads that detox. WOW! smhair Not something I would suggest to anyone that has issues with just using the detox baths as they are not a gentler way to go!!! I had a three day migraine that was the worst I had ever experienced!! I was sooo ill! I would like to try them again, but I'm chicken now!!! LOL!!

Do the full detox baths only 2 or 3 times a week - you'll find what's right for your situation - and use the foot soaks in between. If that's too much - and it could be, then back off further until you find what your body can deal with for now. Detoxing can bring on herxes too!!

Remember to do the other detoxing things as well though! Dry skin brushing, drinking 32 ounces of water (more would be better!) and eating healthy. We need all the help detoxing as we can get!

The other thing you have to consider is that although I would in no way encourage you to stop taking your abx, you are on a low enough dose that it won't stop the bacteria from moving around and causing issues still. At that dose, all it does is keep them from reproducing, not inhibit any movements.
Posted 10/21/2012 7:01 PM (GMT -5)
Yeah, I was wondering about the vinegar too... 

I would cut back on the baths and do the foot baths as Traveler said...  One needs to build up to them. 

Also, I think that a very toxic person feels really bad after a detox bath which says alot right there.   Even if you were not taking any medicines the lyme bacteria dies by itself and leaves toxins inside your body so the process of those toxins leaving your body is not a pleasant feeling...  And be sure to drinks lots of water meanwhile you are in the bath...

Hang in there!

Denise

Posted 10/22/2012 4:31 AM (GMT -5)
thanks everyone...interesting. I didnt add the vinegar till about the 4th bath. I ll cut back on them and leave the vinegar out for now. Ill switch to foot bathes~ If I chose to stop the antibiotics wont that bring on a terrible reaction? I know it is not enough but at least it can suppress them form reproducing...its all the Infectious Disease Dr would prescibe?
Posted 10/22/2012 4:50 AM (GMT -5)
I chose to come off antibiotics after 2 months because I was getting weaker and thinner by the day.

Since then I've been on naturals and supplements and I feel much better,I've gained 5 lbs and have lots more energy.

Detoxing is very important for me ,I've recently invested in an ion foot bath---seems to be working!
Posted 10/22/2012 1:25 PM (GMT -5)
I've read some pretty good things about the Ion foot baths, Tickled!! Glad you got one!!

Confusedby, I would suggest that you continue to take the abx that you have for now, unless you wish to go with a natural approach. If you wish to go with a natural protocol, then you can get started most any time. If you choose to use abx though, it would be much better for you to stay on the strength that you are currently taking, as it will put you that much further down the road since you won't have to ease into starting the Doxy.

Just my 2ยข worth.
Posted 10/23/2012 10:56 PM (GMT -5)
Hi confused -
I hope things are going better for you. I had horrible herxing when I started my low dose of minocycline. For the first 3 months I was all over the place with horrible highs and lows and I was taking less then the suggested dose. I eventually moved to a new abx, two running at the same time, and the addition of Banderol and Samento. I still struggled (I've been dealing with this for over 24 years and just diagnosed 10 months ago.). For me the baths have been hard. My LLMD said that baths are tough for some people. He said that the lyme hates the heat and that it's hard for some to sweat out the neurotoxins in water. He suggested I bypass the baths for now but work on sweating in other ways. I do light repetitive weights 2x a week, I walk regularly and I use the sauna at the gym 2x a week. I also do gentle yoga to help with building up my muscles so that they can help do some of the sweating.

My doc suggests dry brushing and small doses of far infrared sauna time. You can buy a portable one apparently that is $300 or so. Still expensive. In the mean time, since my detoxing has been so rough, we are now pulsing my abx. I take them M, W and F. I still take 2 of them and at the higher doses. The doc said that for some this is what needs to be done. The days that you are off, the lyme apparently comes back out and thinks that the coast is clear to try to move on and then you zap it again. I have felt MUCH better.

I also do lymphatic drainage to help my system moving. I get a lot of lumps in my tissue that can get painful when I'm herxing more. I now do self lymphatic drainage and that helps a ton. I also take a homeopathic lymphatic drainage supplement to help drain my lymph nodes of the toxic build up. I do take a bath once a week but I do it for no more then 20 mins and it's a medium heat. I can't do more then that at this time.

My doc has me doing Opticleanse Plus. It's a rice based drink powder that is supposed to keep things moving so that your bowels can clear out the toxins that make it there. I take that 2x a day and that keeps me feeling better. There is also a blood test that was helpful for my doc. I think it was the HLA test. It is a test that identifies a genetic marker. If you have 2 sets of the gene it makes it harder for you to kick out lyme and it also makes it harder for you to detox. If you have one set then it is tough but not as tough as having both sets. It might be something to talk to your doctor about as they might be able to look at the results and customize a treatment plan for you.

I hope all of this helps. I think the baths are good but they wipe me out. The sauna seems to make me feel much better and not as wiped. But I also know that no everyone has access to a sauna and the portable ones for your home may not be affordable. I do know that if you aren't regularly moving your bowels then you aren't fully detoxing either. I'm about to start a spray magnesium which I'm supposed to spray on my body. It is supposed to help with muscle pains and like the epsome salts help move my bowels. I'll let you know how it goes. Good luck!
Posted 10/24/2012 5:06 AM (GMT -5)
Thanks Justascarf2!

So helpful when others share their experiences. Unfortunetly I am not under the care of an LLMD, waiting on appt in Jan. So, I read and try to educate myself on tips to assisit my body while taking a low dose of Doxy, 100 mg 2xdaily.

I have read about lympathic drainage. Can you please describe how you do that that so I can add to my routine? My lympth nodes began to swell arm pits, neck and groin about 4 months ago. The antibiotic has reduced them slightly.

Just when I fell sorry for myself and wonder how could a human being left here to suffer (mine started over 2 yrs ago) I read a story like yours and realize so many have gone through this nightmare for over 5, 10, 20  plus yrs. Thankful to all who have fought the good fight and attempted to get help for those to follow with Lyme Disease~

Sincerely grateful~ 

Posted 10/24/2012 9:32 AM (GMT -5)
Hey Confused -
First of all, it's great that you will be under of the care of an LLMD soon. As for lymphatic drainage, I still see my therapist once a month and it's taken many visits to learn how to do a small drainage to get me through the inbetween times. Many of the regular massage groups around here do some form of lymphatic drainage. If you can't find a lymphatic therapist I think a fall back would be to see if any massage therapists in the area can incorporate that into a massage. There may even be a video or two that may help you learn more. I just really feel that learning from a trained therapist is the best way. It's very unique to your body.

The key to lymphatic drainage is to learn how to feel the blood flow direction and then gently push it along. My routine drains my neck from ears to collar bone. Then I work on my arm pits and then my breast tissue since that is where my extra fluids flow. I also drain my arms into my arm pits. Finally I go back and redrain my arm pits and then neck. That is my routine. My lymphatic drainage therapist works on my stomach too which is something I can't do. That really gets things moving.

I know that it can be expensive but it's worth finding a professional to help you. It took me a few sessions but I started seeing the changes. I've been going for the last 7 months or so. It has been great. Since I've been dealing with this lyme stuff for quite some time and I'm now finally detoxing (slowly), I now realize how much swelling I actually had going on in my body. For example, my friends always complained about how their breast tissue looked after nursing (much less attractive to them and just more limp breasts - though we wouldn't change anything because we are happy to have been able to breast feed our children). I never saw any major changes. Now I have. It's been about 2.5 years since I last breast fed. It's crazy how backed up lymph nodes and extra toxins can cause so much swelling in your whole body. This is why I advocate lymphatic drainage. It just gets everything moving including your bowels.

By the way, here is a great site to use to find a lymphatic drainage therapist: http://upledger.com/content.asp?id=27
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