Viruses/co-infections oh my

Hey opu...

well, stable is good! :)

I think the main thing is to manage the detox/die off of whatever you are killing. Some of the Jernigan neutraceuticals are for detox...Neuro Anititox series. They would help. Also, the Jernigan ones for viruses, etcs, work in part, at least, by strengthening the body, so I believe it is less likely to cause herx. You could read more about them online, or in his book.

My understanding of why things "come back"...bacteria or viruses...it has to do with the state of the body. If the body is healthy, then it can handle them. So I think, again, managing the detox is important and generally eating well, detoxing, balanced life.

I would not worry about people on the forum, with lyme, talking about viruses coming back. That is par for the course with with lyme..especially chronic...is that viruses, bacteria and yeast and fungus are all likely an issue. Some of then you got from the tick, some were already there in your body. We are living bowls of microbes!

They get active because the body is in a dis-ease state. Keep on healing the body, getting the bacterial/viral loads down, detoxing...and they won't be a problem. That is my understanding.

Not sure what to do first....I think in Jernigan's home protocol he starts with lyme...he theorizes it is best to get that one done first. But if you have a good llmd or llnd, they should be able to advise you.

Hope this was helpful, although rambly!

There has been lots of research done on treating Babesia and Bartonella first, as they will stop healing from Lyme.

As for viruses reactivating, it does happen, but remember that we are only a very small section of people that are infected with these diseases, and are generally more ill than many. I think that those that aren't really ill with these diseases don't bother to stick around on the forums once they start treatment. So what you see on the forums is a bit biased towards those that are having troubles healing, once they have started their treatments. (I hope that makes sense to more than just me! LOL!)

Any way, I would say go get checked out. There's nothing like peace of mind, but don't allow yourself to get all freaked out that something horrible is going to be found.

I had EBV, more than 15 years ago, it made my immunity go all the way down - I honestly don't know what was first, the EBV or the Bart?? I think the EBV. I also have XMRV, and am being treated for that for more than a year (i think 2).

I am wondering if I didn't have the EBV before the LD. I've had these bizarre migraines since before the Lyme but they have just evolved into another animal now, so much worse when they were already unbearable. CMV also came up with EBV in testing and I think those are related.Thanks for the heads up. I will find out as much as I can on the EBV.

FCT is a system based on the fact that illnesses, poor diet, EMFs, toxic metals etc hinder normal cellular functioning. It requires muscle testing to determine the key toxins or root causes of an illness which are then treated with frequency imprinted water. It's definitely not a placebo effect as I have been using it for the past two years after Abx and A-bart did not help me from loosing a tooth to infection. Also because the remedy is mostly water the vials are only $10 from my doctor and last a long time. My Md on the other hand is not inexpensive. He was the practicing physician and did the research for Dr Mercola before starting his own practice. I am always curious how others are doing with other treatments and since my doctor is on vacation when i got the flu and then the EBV symptoms I was just panicking a bit, but I used a pendulum to test myself and took those remedies and I am actually feeling better. Outside of the migraines which are cyclical ( pre & post menses) I am doing pretty well I guess. Just need to tell my dr about this EBV that flared up and get a protocol from him.

Hi Traveler,
I believe it is similar to both Rife and Homeopathy. You can actually make your own remedies from a toxin or pathogen and potentize them to an effective dilution but I feel more confident using the ones my doctors prepares. And actually, the dosage is one drop and the frequency varies, but it helps the detoxing of course to drink lots of water. I've been using FCT exclusively until I added the Cat's Claw this past weekend in my panick, since I lost a tooth in spring of 2011. I still work and am studying Oriental Medicine evenings and if it weren't for my cyclical migraines that we're still battling I couldn't complain. I was genetically tested and am part of the 20% of the population whose bodies' can't even see the Lyme as I understand it. But I do know I am only 4 years into this and have a long way to go --I hope!!

Traveler,
I want to learn more to help myself but it'd be even better if I could help others so my answer is both :)