teasel root experience-can it drive lyme into new tissue

Hi everybody,

For those who have taken teasel or have knowledge of it, when teasel forces lyme out (I know there is disagreement about whether teasel kills or simply forces lyme out), can the lyme go into new tissues and give you a whole new set of symptoms you have to deal with?

Thank you in advance,

jon

I have no medical knowledge, but can speak to what happens to me. For those people that teasel works for (apparently it doesn't work for everyone. Stephen Buhner says it tends not to work on people who were infected out East, but usually works well on people infected in the Midwest), it can be very, very strong.

For me, personally, just one drop increase brings additional herxing.

I just went to a Lyme Q&A, and one thing they said in general about treatment is that it can bring out symptoms you never had before treatment. Presumably, this is because you have bacteria everywhere, but not all of it causes symptoms.

So, if teasel works for you, it may be causing die-off in places you never knew you had bacteria.

Before I first started treatment (mostly Buhner, plus teasel & grapefruit seed extract), my main symptoms were fatigue, neck pain and brain fog. After beginning treatment, I hurt everywhere. I also had other new symptoms appear and then fade - irregular heartbeat, weird, stabbing side pain, sinus dripping, dizziness & mild seizure-like stuff. None of those were an issue until I started treating.

I think the herbs bring it out because bacteria are dying everywhere. At the Q&A, they talked about it being in layers - with most recent dying (and creating symptoms) first and the most embedded taking much longer.

With specifically the teasel, every time I increase a drop (Buhner says you can take up to 1 teaspoon, 3 x's a day), I get increased pain and brain fog. After many months, I am only up to 14 drops, 3 x's a day. Lady Barbara says 3 drops, 3 x's a day is enough (following a different naturalist whose name I don't remember) but Buhner says that's too small an amount.

However, if teasel works for you, you need to work up the amount very, very slowly, or you will just want to die.

So, this is a very long answer. I have no medical background, but from my personal experience, yes, treatment that works will bring out symptoms you never had before.

Since I have been on continuous treatment for over 6 months, I don't know if any new symptoms are unrelated to the herbs.

BTW, they said at this Q&A to expect to treat a chronic condition for years. Not what I wanted to hear. On the other hand, Lady Barbara claims to be cured from 3 drops of teasel, 3 x's a day in just weeks.