Hyperbaric Chamber and MS or Lyme?

Hi almost,

I really don't know much about MS except that many of the members here were first diagnosed with MS only to find out later on (sometimes years later) that they really had lyme disease.

My lyme tests also kept coming back negative for 5 years and I think that was because the tests were done by run of the mill labs such as labcorp, etc.   I tested positive through IgeneX and this is the difference between IgeneX and the local labs:

When local labs make there lyme probes they used rabbit antigens from 2 strains of Lyme.

IgeneX uses samples from human lyme patients from all over the United States and Europe and from patients who had early, middle and late stage lyme.

Also, when a western blot is done there is an acidic gel that is used to separate out the bands. Most labs use a 10% gel. Igenenx uses a 12.5% gel so they get better separation of the bands.

As far as these chambers, I got my oxygen from taking daily detox baths as the hydrogen peroxide in the baths get absorbed into your pores resulting in putting oxygen into one's blood stream (lyme bacteria do not like oxygen).

If you research Dr. Lida Mattman she tested many MS patients and found lyme bacteria. 

http://lymeresearchphysician.com/articles/lymeandms.html

I suggest you get tested by IgeneX.  There is talk about another good lab called Ispot but I don't know much about this lab.  

Hope this helps and good luck to you!

Denise

Almostmedfree...

Your oxygen level as measured by an oximeter (the device placed on your finger) only measures the oxygen level in your blood cells (hemoglobin), and does not measure the level of oxygenation in your tissues.

When breathing oxygen under pressure, as in mHBOT (mild hyperbaric), the oxygen quickly fills up the hemoglobin to capacity, then is forced by pressure into the plasma, lymph, tissues, spinal fluid, etc. This could not be accomplished by breathing oxygen alone, or absorbing it through the skin.

I would encourage you to start learning more about the benefits by reading "The Oxygen Revolution" by Dr. Paul Harch, and visiting his website: HBOT.com . Mild hyperbaric has shown great success for neurological issues (be sure to check out the before and after SPECT scans...they are impressive).

I am well now from neurological Lyme and coinfections, thanks to mHBOT. (You can read more on the "Hyperbaric Chamber" thread)...

Hi Almost Medfree!
Welcome over to the Lyme forum!!
The bands that everyone refers to on this forum are the bands that are on the Western Blot Lyme disease tests. It's just a name that's applied to a particular weight of an antigen.

Basically, when looking at a Western Blot, a researcher or lab worker will see a band showing that there is reactivity to a specific part of a bacteria.

In Lyme disease, there are several of these bands that are highly specific to the Lyme disease bacteria. If even one of these bands is present, it's like saying that you saw the "foot print" of the bacteria - it was definitely there.

Lyme disease testing is very complicated though, and most doc's don't know this. They only follow what they are told. If even one of those Lyme specific bands are present, the patient needs to have treatment since they have Lyme disease. Most doc's and the CDC require several bands to be present in order to call it a positive test result.

There is a bunch more that I can explain if you are interested.

I would suggest that you read through the "New to Lyme? Start here!" thread if you haven't yet. It's packed full of important information about Lyme and the other infections that usually get passed at the same time, including symptom lists, detoxing instructions, helpful links and pdf's, and even a list of questions that you can ask any doctor that you are seeking treatment from.

Thanks, everyone, for your thoughtful and informative replies.

Traveler, I just finished reading through the thread "New to Lyme." It was very helpful.

I have a few questions:

First, for those of you who have done the detox bath and have gone to all that trouble and expense, what does it do for you symptom wise? Is it very helpful to do the detox baths while you're on the antibiotics to fight Lyme's?

Second, for those of you who had Lyme's for a while and were put on a long term regiment of antibiotics, was it beneficial? Did you experience some awful side effects being on antibiotics?

Have any of you tried the hyperbaric chamber for a good while and it didn't help? If it wasn't so expensive, would it be beneficial to everyone with Lyme's?

I'll be seeing my physician about all this on Thursday so I'm going to put an information sheet together thanks to this website.

I've met people who have been doing long term antibiotics and a few of them really stood out to me. They had been on them for years, starting with pills and then switching to IVs. One person was complaining that he couldn't get a stronger dose and said he really needed it badly, otherwise he went right back to feeling lousy. So my thought was why take them so long when the symptoms just come right back so soon after stopping the abx. It just seems they aren't working if the same symptoms return upon stopping the med. There are many who are helped, but I don't think this guy is one of them. He seemed addicted to them, just so desperate for more. I don't know how he is now since I haven't seen him for a couple of years. I hope he found some better help.