feeling terrible, support

First I want to say how grateful I am to have this forum and the folks on here. I don't know where I would be without it.  I am feeling beyond horrible and just want to post as a way to help me express something to people who understand.

I am being treated for Bart for about 6 months now and have had ups and downs.  The last 2 1/2 weeks I felt about 80% better overall.  Amazing.   Then, this week started up and BAM! Back to feeling worse than I have felt in months.  I assume it's a flare up/die/off?

It started under my right arm - severe ache - on the muscles and in the gland area.  Glands are not swollen but so tender.  The muscle aches go down my right arm, down my chest, into my stomach and around to the right side of my back. It's almost unbearable. 

Migrating aches in various muscles in my body as well.  My hands feel like they've been in a vice and then let out.  I have headaches and a tightness in my neck area.

I feel at times like I'm hot, hot hot, but not running fever.

I am so sick/nauseous - and I think most of it is from the pain/ache.

I feel like I want to die.  I really don't want to die, but it sounds like it would be a relief right now. I know so many of you can relate.

I'm detoxing all I can and hope that this will cycle out sooner than later.  I keep telling myself - it always leaves, eventually.  It comes back - to varying degrees - but there will be some relief - that is what I have to believe. 

This is such a bad one for me.  Thanks for being here.  I really appreciate it.

80% better means that you have been doing the right things, so I would stay positive - and even though it is difficult both physically AND emotionally ( due to "uggh, here we go again" ) now, just hang in there and continue .. maybe, depending on your treatment, you could change things up a little bit ?

How are you treating the bartonella ?

Hi Kathleen,

Like you already wrote, I know how you feel. Bartonella flare-ups/die-offs are so hard... I have it too, and the pain that is EVERYWHERE is driving me crazy: disappears here and pops up there. That pulling pain all along your arm muscles. I get the hot flashes too, but I don't know if it is adrenal related or not, cause it's mostly towards the evening.

You feeling better the last weeks must be an indication of better times to come.

Don't give up, go hour by hour, it's the only thing you an do, that and detoxing. I hope it quickly passes by.

MarieLS

Have you tried colonics? They really helped me from the worst.

I was told that the best glutathione is liposomal by Essential Pro. If your glutathione is not liposomal you are just waisting your money.

Kathleenta, we are all here for you. Im sorry to hear about your setback. It will turn back around. The oregano makes me herx really hard at times. When I back off a little bit from that and garlic my herxing goes down. I hear the oil of oregano can be worse than the raw herb which is what I drink. You say you see a llnd in the PNW? Is she in Seattle by any chance? Either way I would be grateful if you would share her name with me. I've seen an llnd in Seattle and Im seeing an llmd in Wash. But I really like having as many opinions and ideas as possible. I've personally hit a wall and I want to move past it asap.

Thanks again, all. I see Dr. R near Portland, OR. I don't know who Dr. H is, Garden Peace. Roots, feel free to email me directly and I will give her my LLND contact information. I like her and her approach. She's about 7 hours away from me - I wish she were closer - but she's very good about me being at a distance and will do phone calls appointments at reasonable cost and also allows phone calls without charge as well - for questions about meds, etc.

Thanks again, everyone.