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Posted 10/17/2015 12:46 PM (GMT -5)
Saw my doctor Thursday for the first time in months and have me Kavinance and AdreneVive for sleep. Kavinace is suppose to provide gaba support and help healthy sleep and AdreneVive has Ashwagandha 250mg ,skullcap root 250MG , Eleuthero root 200mg , Rhodiola root 200mg , L-Theanine and Phosphatidylserine 100MG in it serving size is 2 caps. I have only been taking one of each at night for sleep like I was told to start and no matter how much sleep I get the next day I am a gorggy most of the day. They make me sleep great and I don't wake up at night but the next day I feel awful . Is this normal? Could it ware off?-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------in a previously post I posted the past could days I have felt down and almost sad n depressed which I normally feel good and happy and it's been like that since I started these two supplements Thursday night . Any thoughts?
Posted 10/17/2015 12:56 PM (GMT -5)
You need to talk to your doctor about this. It may be that you are getting more than you need, or that it may take time for your body to adjust to it. Everyone is different on what they need to sleep. You may only need to use one of those things.
Posted 10/17/2015 6:05 PM (GMT -5)
Anyone else have any thoughts, experience or opinions on this? Please and thanks
Posted 10/17/2015 8:10 PM (GMT -5)
I've used it, same result as you mentioned - brain dead in the morning and groggy till 5 PM, for a very high price. Not for me.

Kavinace is made in Wisconsin, (the iSpot lyme test is from their sister company), so every Dr in Wisconsin and minnesota push their products.

Sleep has been an issue with me for a long time. It seems I get used to product that work and then their effectiveness wears off over a month or so. So I switch them a lot. Right now what works well is good old school Ibuprofen PM (generic though). It has more Benedril in it that Benadril has.

I always take 400mg of Magnessium Glycinate too- it helps relax.
Posted 10/17/2015 10:18 PM (GMT -5)
Kavinace works on your GABA receptors like xanax, clonazepam, etc do and so you can become dependent on it if taken regularly. It can be difficult to get off of it too some say.

Are you taking two as the label says? Maybe try taking just one?

I use it occasionally for anxiety but it wouldn't put me to sleep.
Posted 10/17/2015 10:39 PM (GMT -5)
Just taking one my LLMD didn't say anything about it being addiction or anything Because I mentioned to him I used Xanax in the past for sleep idk why he didn't say they were similar then
Posted 10/18/2015 10:02 PM (GMT -5)
The main ingredient in kavanise is phenibut. Look up phenibut and you will see that it does have addictive properties as it does play on gaba receptors in a less strong way then prescription drugs like xanax and Ativan. But you should still only use it 2-3 times per week tops.
Posted 10/19/2015 12:13 PM (GMT -5)
Myeezy-I take Phosphatidyl serine powder (1/2 teaspoon) and two valieran root (sp). Making the change to that has helped a lot.
Posted 10/19/2015 8:05 PM (GMT -5)
For sleep or anxiety? What does sp mean
Posted 10/19/2015 10:21 PM (GMT -5)
(sp) means that the word may not be spelled correctly.

Both products are to aid in sleep. Valerian root is to be taken 30 minutes prior to when you want to fall asleep. Phosphatidyl serine powder is to lower your cortisol so that you can sleep. It's very common in Lyme patients to have very high cortisol levels at night which makes sleeping next to impossible.
Posted 10/19/2015 10:58 PM (GMT -5)
Thanks which products/brands do you use
Posted 10/19/2015 11:46 PM (GMT -5)
I use Designs for Health Phosphatidyl serine powder. It's pricey but it works. I use Now brands for the Valerian root. That's cheap.
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