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Posted 4/8/2016 7:24 PM (GMT -5)
Hello all,
I have a question:
I am on my third month Abx treatment. Occasionally, I have deep chills in my body and it make me feel terrible. It could happen a few times a day. Sometimes I feel chills even when I am having hot drink. I had this symptom before I started my treatment, so it could not be Herx. I did some research, Babesia can cause chills, but I don't have air hunger. Does the lyme attacking cause chills or something else? Do you such deep chills ?Thanks.
Posted 4/8/2016 8:59 PM (GMT -5)
I had deep chills - never a fever. That particular symptoms didn't happen all that often but, rest assured, I had plenty of other symptoms that made me feel terrible.

Babesia and Lyme can both cause chills. Chills were parts of herxes for me. Increased detoxing helped.

What all are you doing for detoxing? Are you increasing your detoxing when your symptoms worsen from treatment? That's how we're able to manage treatments and not feel as horrible.

I'd keep the thought of Babesia in the back of your mind and, if you hit a plateau in treatment, you might want to consider trialing some Babesia treatments.

I didn't have air hunger, either.....but I had a couple of hot flashes that my LLMD thought was due to Lyme.

Cowden's Babesia-specific herbs caused me to herx with drenching sweats. Buhner's Babesia-specific herbs caused me to herx with air hunger, chest pressure and anxiety. I have no doubt that I have some strain of Babesia or Babesia-like infection.

And, the healthy population can be walking around with an asymptomatic Babesia infection. We can't heal from Lyme sometimes without addressing pre-existing conditions.

It certainly wouldn't be a bad idea to get your LLMD's take on the particular symptom - it might affect your treatment protocol.
Posted 4/8/2016 9:55 PM (GMT -5)
I was having menopause hot flashes when I got lyme and then all of a sudden I was cold. It was so strange to be cold and shiver as if it were below freezing.

Mine was lyme....

Now the cold has passed and I am hot again.

Lyme really messed up my thermostat.
Posted 4/8/2016 10:12 PM (GMT -5)
Cd3764, thanks for your reply.

I am doing 1)Epsom bath 2)infrared sauna 3)Drink lemon water for detoxing.
I have other symptoms in addition to deep chills. Muscle pain, knee pain, upper back pain, ear ringing and insomnia. I started Abx treatment since beginning of Feb., so far all symptoms remains except heart palpatation disappeared. I am doing my best to have this infection under control, but don't know when is the end.
Posted 4/8/2016 10:21 PM (GMT -5)
Epsom baths and infrared saunas are excellent detoxing methods as is drinking lemon water.

Perhaps you might consider something to support your liver - one of the major players in our body's detoxification systems. Many of us take milk thistle (as long as there's no ragweed allergy)

Another good method you could use is dry skin brushing before your bath. Not only does it remove dead skin cells but, most importantly, it moves lymph fluid - another big detox player.

One other method that can be very effective is a binder like activated charcoal. Binders need to be taken 3 hrs. away from EVERYthing because they not only absorb toxins but EVERYthing else.

This site has some great detoxing methods:

www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html

And members shared their detoxing protocols in this thread:

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3602759

Lyme toxins are what drive our symptoms:

www.benbrew.com/lb/lyme5.pdf

And that's why it's so important to detox. It takes awhile to get ahead of the toxins that are created during treatment. The sooner you clear them, the better you will feel.

As crazy as it sounds, you'd be considered early in treatment. Things will get better - it "just" takes time.

Babesia is a known cause of ear ringing....

Has your LLMD changed your abx at all? Many LLMD's change abx every month....some go a little longer.

The end is when your symptoms dissipate....and ILADS recommends treating 2 months past that.

Hang in - better days are coming!!!
Posted 4/8/2016 10:22 PM (GMT -5)
Chills can be from low thyroid too, which can come on from the infection process. Can be accompanied by hot flashes / sweats too, even for men LOL.

Systemic Candida can do this too.
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