Lyme and getting "Regular Sick"

So that is why LDI works (low dose immunotherapy). It turns the immune response off to borrelia/co's. I always worried the bacteria were doing damage if we just ignored them. Interesting.

But it's dead bacteria - not live. So it shouldn't do anything if you don't have it. Right? I tried it and my buzzing went away in a day. Only lasted about 7 days the first time. Slightly longer the second time.

It's not tons and tons of bacteria. It's minuscule amounts.


"In this therapy, the antigens used in the remedy are taken from multiple strains of Borrelia, Bartonella, Babesia and Ehrlichia – in fact, the Lyme mix contains over 70 strains of these various pathogens. "

And, since it's dead...it can't transmit an active infection to anyone who isn't already infected.


restormedicine.com/low-dose-immunotherapy-new-therapy-for-lyme-disease-treatment-available-at-restormedicine/

No, I only did LDI for 3 months. I started to freak myself out with the lack of research on it. A few people on the LDI FB page have gotten worse with it. When I took the Bartonella mix (I had them separated out to see which I responded to) I had some weird dreams and then my jaw shaking started. I had nothing good come out of the Bartonella mix. But the Borellia mix was great for me. I had only tried abx for 6 weeks prior to the LDI, so I decided to give herbs/abx a real go before going back to the LDI.

I think there must be a reason why it helps some and not others. And why some get worse on it. Again, just needs more research.

Chappele, thank you very much.
I have another concern.Does this mean that Lyme patient should not be vaccinated?
How much time after getting vaccine one can show Lyme symptoms?
I was vaccinated when I didn't know I had Lyme. Do you think that could provoke additional damage?
And what happens with the illness that I was vaccinated against? I hope these microbs didn't have a chance to actually do something?

Fendrix. I think it contains dead microbes, so I hope it couldn't have infected me?

"vaccinations are immune suppressing"

this is one of the many million reasons I never get the flu shot - even though .gov is trying really hard to make it mandatory for everyone who leaves the house. Let them try and catch me.

-p

blueberrymuffin - no, if its a dead virus it wouldnt have infected you, but it could have suppressed your immune system as girlie said.

i never bothered with the flu shots even before lyme - it is like a guessing game. they make an educated guess as to which strain will be the most prominent, and sometimes they are wrong, so even if you get the flu shot, you can still get the flu if you get infected by a different strain than the vaccinated one.

my kids - since they got lyme, I have been testing them for their titers, and they have not needed any boosters whatsoever!

Thanks for your answers.
Another issue, I really hope I am not boring, if I am, please tell me, I will stop.
Does low WBC mean that immune system is suppressed? Is it done by Bb or other bacteria and which one? Do you know some method to increase WBC that would work for person with Lyme?

I don't know the answer but my wbc count has always been in the normal rsnge. It's my cd57 that kept dropping even as I made improvements. But some say cd57 isn't a very reliable marker

blueberry - there is one missing link here - once you "get it", it will not be so complicated!

did you read my prior post about how the immune system works?
when you get sick - it is your immune system responding to the bacteria which in turn causes the symptoms. so you must understand that it is not actually the bacteria causing the symptoms, but your own immune system as a response to the presence of bacteria. once you understand this, alot of it will make sense.

So if your WBC count is low, there is not enough of it to produce an immune response to the bacteria that you may encounter, hence you do not get "regular" sick.

yup! you got it now! =)

i know, it is VERY confusing! and I thought exactly as you did all of my life, until my Dr explained it to me!!

Nilrin - that is not how I interpreted georgia's comment. If I understood it correctly - what u stated is not necessarily always the case. And when it isn't the case and our immune system is not being supported nor is strong enough, then it is indeed suppressed, and then the wbc Is lower than it should be. . Georgia - question. I'm at a crossroad. I could not grasp all of ur commentary. In simple terms what do u think could b going on with me - all of my lyme symptoms have resolved just recently. This happened when I aggressively started treating candida. However I keep on getting sick. Is it possible that I am now back to layer 1?? Everytime I start exercising I get run down. The First Time This Happened I was herxing a ton - this was back in february... Second time I attempted I was fatigued with swollen glands. And Just Last Week - I Ran A Few MILEs two days in a row and the following day I started with a post nasal drip which lead to a sinus infection which I'm still battling bc I'm trying to avoid antibiotics. You Said Those Who exercise beat lyme faster but also doesn't exercise cause your body's ph to turn acidic? Im just super frustrated and im trying to figure out why i have been getting sick so much. Tia for your opinion. Also as a side note I do notice that if I cheat on my diet and have a sweet treat - sometimes the post nasal drip starts. It's like I'm allergic to sugar. Lol. But two months ago if I cheated I would get a herx like reaction whereas I would get tingly all over and some of my joints we old hurt. So this must be a dign 9 improvement I hope?