anyone beat babesia??!

has anyone beat babesia? i have read so many accounts of people fighting so hard, maybe getting somewhat better - and then it comes rearing back. if you have beat it and it is staying away, will you please post? i am taking 2 pills of Malarone once a day, Artemisinin 300 mg in the morning/150 mg at night and 10 drops of CSA from Woodland Essence morning and night.
would really appreciate feedback! xcharlotte

I have just a little more of cryptolepis and then I will be done with that and will let you know if babs rears its ugly head. Everything is crossed here.

Hi PeteZa, do you mind telling me how long you have been treating, with what, and what your symptoms were? does crypto kill the babesia? I researched CSA and it doesnt seem that either herb kills, but ameliorate symptoms?

swede in LA said...
Hi Girlie - yes i am pulsing it. not sure what pulse interval is best though. any ideas? i do every other day for 3 weeks, then a week off. (i do rifampin/tindamax every other day, malarone/art/CSA every other)

It varies - depending on the Dr.

LLMD MR - his protocol for Art is 3 days on 11 off.

One of the forum members did 7-10 days on and then 3 or 4 weeks off. (I can't remember if it's 3 or 4)

Another LLMD prescribes it M/W/F for two weeks, then one week off.


So, you do the malarone/art/csa on the days that you're not taking the rifampin and tindamax?

There is individual variability in metabolizing artemisia and that could affect optimal dosing in some individuals. With that said, I'm not sure if there is a "best" dosing schedule. If I were to take it (and I have,) I would start by taking 500mg a day for 2 or 3 days and off 7 or 8 days. The goal is to keep blood levels as high as possible for as long as possible and this regime appears to do a sufficient job of doing this. My belief is that killing babesia (or other apicomplexans) is more of an issue with a drug's volume of distribution, not its concentration. Simply put, it doesn't matter how high your drug concentration is if it can't get to its target site, it's not going to work. There is much debate in that statement that I'm not going to get into here.

This article assumes too many things but has some very good information.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1884742/

Girlie said...
GH - Are you talking about Artemisia...or Artemisinin...or both?

I have been taking Artemisinin - and I'm up to 500 mg twice daily.

I took Dr Zhang's Artemisiae Capsules which is made from the entire plant and contains astragalus. Artesunate achieves higher blood levels in the body but is influenced more by other compounds. Like I said earlier, the concentration isn't the issue.

If I had to pick between a plant or a compound from that plant, I'll normally chose the plant because of all the secondary products associated with the plant. The compound will most likely be stronger and have more potency, but is that better? I don't know if it is. All of this is assuming that you are purchasing a quality product as levels of Artemisinin vary in Artemisia plants.

www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0944711311001930

Holy moly that's a lot of CSA.