Herbal Protocol guidance needed

So I have left antibiotics for the past week. Was feeling great over the weekend but today it just dropped a level. At work felt tired, depressed, flashing pain in heart for a second and I have this constant oily quality to my face where I have to go and wash face to feel a bit alive. Also have been feeling pressure in head when trying to sleep.

Herbs I am on-
Chronic Tonic 1X a day + Cryptolepis + Houttuynia + Andrographis + Hawthorn + Cat's Claw + Japanese Knotweed (I know the last two are repeats since they are in chronic tonic but the more the better)

Anything to add to this or do you think it is sufficient for time being? Also how often to get CBC/bloodwork/ liver enzymes done? Are these herbs stronger than antibiotics?

I think your protocol looks good.

You might want to at some point look into some herbs for specific issues...supportive measures.

I get my Hematology, liver and kidney function tests monthly.

Generally, most herbs aren't as hard on the body as antibiotics...but there are some that can be.
So, you should be taking probiotics, liver support,

I thought tumeric was inhibitor of c450...i herxed harder on andrographis than rocephin ..bvt blew them both out of the water

Like others have said great protocol. Seems like you did your homework. Minus the chronic tonic, we pretty much have the same protocol. It's essentially a lyme protocol with a couple extra antibacterial herbs thrown in for good measure. Pretty much the same idea I had. I think I just throw Hawthorn in the mix because it actually taste good haha.

Well, you're herxing, so the herbs are working. How well are you detoxing? You are killing the bugs, now you need to help your body get rid of them. That can elevate some of the symptoms.

Klambert1 said...
I have a few questions
I have had lyme for 19 years. I was diagnosed with fibro in 2010. I am unable to work at this point. Anyway, I am coming to terms that this is lymes (pos. bulls eye rash with tick bite) and would like to know if this would be a good mixture for me to start? i can honestly tell you I am afraid of herbs, I took a generic GNC weight loss pill years ago and ended up in the ER. It had a lot of herbs. I don't like taking medicine period lol. I guess the anxiety is high. I have had bladder infections all of my life and have been on antibiotics off and on quite a few times a year. Last year I think my body gave up. I took cipro and ended up with c-diff for about 4 months.
tylenol puts me to sleep and immodium knocks me out. I am sensitive to meds I guess.
thanks for any help.

If you would like to start a new thread with these questions, we could really give you some good ideas. Kinda hate to take direction away from Sam here.

I have some thoughts on this for you.

echoing...bravo on the protocol..and when it comes to Traveler's counsel. geez.. she is a goddess... he he he.

Traveler said...

Lymedriven has those 11 other herbs that help detox and support for some of the specific issues he's dealing with. You can see the post that he lists the herbs he's using here: www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3741351

I use turmeric not only for inflammation, but for liver support as well, as I can't use milk thistle.

Quite possibly, it's really a matter of researching each of the herbs, I'm sure they all may have properties that may help; some used in other people's protocol for treating lyme like the chinese skullcap.

Most of the 11 other herbs are for nervous system/brain support/nuero support. But it's hard to just seclude them to that category....because herbs are really great at multiple systemic healing.

All in all, its hard to put a cap on one benefit but I would research each one individually before adding them in.

My main reason for the 11 herbs is to help the nuero anxiety aspect that lyme creates; in order to fix the functioning of the brain/nervous system in order for further healing to occur more naturally.

Not to say; these herbs may have strong antiparasital/viral/ effects. I would research each.

Some based off buhner's perspective to heal symptoms as well.

But, we can't forget that herbs are very potent and dangerous medicine if not used properly - which is why I don't suggest that people assume they can follow what another is doing when mixing their own herbs for specific purposes, or that they just try them out without researching them.

Herbs can do just as much harm as pharma drugs when misused/not 'respected'. I was only urging caution.

Herbs are very different from pharma drugs in that they rarely only have one use - most herbs have many actions and when combined with herbs with similar actions, they get a stronger response. They have synergistic qualities.

Thank you for the encouraging words everyone! Its good to know that I am on the right track with the herbs. I have Red Root that I can add for detox. Other than an ACV drink with probiotics and occasional Burbur, I have not done much detox as I should be doing. My laziness creeps in from time to time unfortunately. Hmm I will order the Milk Thistle, Skullcap to help out with liver/body. I also tend to eat a lot of vegetables that are cooked with turmeric so I get a solid amount from that. I have Collagen from great lakes and Matcha Green Tea at home so I will add those as well. I have to motivate myself throughout the day haha. I am also scheduled to see my primary physician in about 2 weeks so I will get the blood work done.