I have a few questions..sorry newbie here

Heat does kill the borrelia. I believe they die massively at 120 F.

Unfortunately so would you. A heat blanket might help, but it also might drive the spirochetes deeper into your tissues to survive it. Heat therapy is something some have looked into, and they will probably weigh in at some point on your questions.

Yes, what you experience after exercise is herxing, or toxic die off symptoms. It's the Lyme, yes. If it makes you feel that bad, you are stressing your body too much and it is being distracted from dealing with it's Lyme problem. You might want to back off a little until exercise doesn't bother you so much.

You could start adding more de-toxing to your current regime. Drink lemon water throughout the day and take braggs apple cider vinegar every day to change what's probably acidic body ph back to neutral, more alkaline.

I believe that part of the problem with being in the sun is something I call sun-sickness. We have holes in our ozone shield that is supposed to filter the more dangerous uv rays.

But now that I think about it, that sick affect wasn't something I felt until after becoming infected, I don't think. That was a long time ago.

On the herbs, if you can pick up one of Stephen Buhner's books, "Healing Lyme"...he lists specific protocols to address each issue you might want to treat for.

I recently got his second edition, which has a huge section dedicated to RMSF, on amazon in new condition for $15.00.


It's important to aim for what you specifically are needing. We are all slightly different.

Klambert1, lyme disease has no definite pattern. Try as you may to figure it out and it will frustrate you.

It is known as the migrating symptoms and that it surely is. One minute you will be fine and think you are well, and the next you feel like you are near death.

If you are interested in an herbal protocol, I recommend Buhner's because there are a lot of knowledgeable people and there is a book of his you can get. It is not a cheap treatment, but there is not one cheap protocol to cure lyme. I am biased and not a doctor and actually just a nobody.

My other recommendation is Beyond Balance. Now this one is tricky. You can pretty much figure out that BB is for lyme, Bar is for Bartonella and Bab is for Babesia, and some of the others you can figure out. You can search the net and find out what is in the tinctures and they are all non-alcoholic.

I actually did both tinctures at the same time.

Glad you found this place. You will find a lot of good information from many that have been around for a long time.

I am a short timer. I was bit April 2015 and just got to quit herbs this summer after 3 months of no symptoms. I am still doing well but now I am trying to gain back my strength in my body. When I was sick I babied myself and exercise was the last thing I wanted to do. I am now biking and hiking and swimming and sometimes doing a little too much and paying for it.

Welcome and keep asking questions. That is how most of us have found what works for us.

It's the Lyme. Or Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever which was my case. I felt it before I was on any treatment. But then I also felt it after I started treatment. I often said I felt like I'd been bounced down the highway. Later on I discovered that generally when I felt like that, I was also running a fever, which I did almost every afternoon for a long time.

Fever indicates the body is trying to kill off an invasion, in this case bacteria.

Traveler lived with it for 40 years. She finally found someone to help her heal through herbs, and then recently got infected all over again. She's following the same protocol as the first time, I believe.

I've been infected with Lyme for 31 years now, RMSF for 24 years. I THINK. I did get 3 pos. bands for Lyme in '92, but was given the "it could be syphilis" "we don't have Lyme in Missouri" brush off.
Nothing was said about RMSF, and I do not have the test to look at.

I got 2 CDC pos RMSF results Spring of 2015, with symptoms identical to what sent me to be tested in '92.
I don't know for sure if I was re-infected again last year, or what. I'd been pretty sick for months before my Internist was finally of a mind to get me tested. Nothing special, just the usual health clinic lab, probably used Quest. I don't have that test either to look at.


All the years I was up and down between 85 and '92, no one ever mentioned Lyme or thought to test for it. I was told I had "Severe" fibro and chronic fatigue syndrome. I saw many specialists and tested for everything but...

Yep, Julymorning got it right. I've now been infected for 46 out of my 53 years on the earth. It IS depressing, as she also said, because I haven't been able to work for the last 25 years now.

But, we can at least get to a point where we are more functional. When I healed the first time though, I heal very well - I had literally never felt so good. I did as I wanted when I wanted and longer than every before. Until family stress got to be too much, and my adrenals crashed hard, taking my thyroid down with it, and leaving me all too vulnerable to be reinfected.

As far as times of low symptoms, I had a lot of those over the course of my first 40 years with these infections. During those times, I always questioned my EBV and Fibro diagnosis, because those symptoms aren't known to wax and wane like Lyme and co do. I knew there was something else going on.

Lesions on the brain can develop from age, but there are a few conditions that will lead to more being created. When I had my last brain MRI, (around 2008?) I had enough brain lesions to concern my doctor (non-LLMD) ordered a SPECT scan. Interestingly enough, it showed I had 2 areas of my brain showing hypoperfusion - which correlated with the areas of my body with the most severe symptoms. I also had symptoms severe enough to be considered late stage Alzheimer's symptoms.

While I found this very interesting, it really did no good, nor did it help me with treatments. But my point was (lol) that even with late stage brain symptoms, a person can recover well.