Could EBV cause lingering problems

So, I had my doctor's office post my labs in my patient portal so I could make copies for when I'm able to go to a LLMD. All co-infections, of course, came back negative but I did have EBV come back as high.

EBV VIRAL CAPSID AG (VCA) AB (IGG)
4.27    H
> or = 1.10 Positive

EBV NUCLEAR AG (EBNA) AB (IGG)
>5.00    H
> or = 1.10 Positive

I know that EBV is a common virus, but I was wondering if this could be what's causing my lingering symptoms of headache, that weird feeling like I can't speak sometimes (which I would more attribute to Lyme but just guessing), some fatigue, etc.

I was only recently bitten, late July to early August, and was treated with Doxy late October for 3 weeks and 10 days early December because of not feeling well.

Should I try to address the EBV and if so, what would I use for that?

I have also been struggling with the same questions. In recent lab work the viral tests were off the charts. Coxsackie Group A IgG were 8x the norm at 1:800 and one item (A16) was 1:1600, but all IgM were negative. Many EBV IgG titters were also high, with IgM negative. CMV Abs were both negative. HHV-6 was positive at 2.10, double the .99 level.

I've added Takuna, L-Lysine, Lomatium and Astragalus to my GSE, ASV, Colloidal Silver, Japanese Knotweed, Cat's Claw, and Hout regimen.

I also got Rx for Valtrex, but UHC wouldn't cover it, so we substituted with Famciclovir (Famvir).

Here's some info I copied from Buhner's web site:

Dear Stephen,
I’m writing from India. My lyme tests have come back negative but my Epstein Barr Virus (EBV) test is positive – both IgG and IgM. I was told resveratrol is very helpful in preventing replication of the virus – would Japanese knotweed give the same benefits for EBV as resveratrol? Also, can you please suggest what else would be helpful for EBV? Thank you.

Stephen’s response:
There are a number of herbs that are specific for EBV – but I do want to note that nearly everyone is positive for EBV. For most people it is something that does not cause problems. However, if you are experiencing chronic fatigue like symptoms, it can be the cause. The antiviral herbs specific for EBV that are also widely systemic in the body are: lomatium, andrographis, reishi, licorice, isatis, Japanese knotweed, Chinese skullcap root, and fresh ginger root. The organism also damages mitochondria and their function which is what leads to such low energy levels. The herbs specific for protecting mitochondria and their function are: cordyceps, motherwort, rhodiola, Chinese skullcap root, kudzu.

I would start with:
• Herbal tincture combination of: Chinese skullcap, licorice, isatis, and lomatium. Equal parts of each tincture mixed together, ¼ tsp 3x daily. AND
• Tincture combination of: rhodiola, reishi, kudzu. Same dosage AND
• Cordyceps 2000 mg 3x daily or tincture: ¼ tsp 3x daily (you can purchase from sagewomanherbs.com)

And do this for 60 days and see if it helps.

You may have to buy the herbs separately and mix them yourself or try woodlandessence.com or elkmountainherbs.com as sources.

Stephen

Your welcome.

I've never made his combo tincture. I start with 3 or 4 oz of water in a glass and just add each tincture one at a time at my ramped up dose. I start with 20 drops GSE, a splash of ACV, 1 dropper of Jap Knotweed, 2 droppers of Cat's Claw, 3 droppers of Hout, 2 droppers of Takuna, and 2 dropper Lomatium. Stir with plastic spoon (someone said that metal spoon may react with some herbs) and let sit for a few minutes, then drink. I do this only twice a day. I have a hard time with 3x a day, so I increase my dosages.

Start slow with one drop of one tincture and increase drops one at a time. After a few days add in the next herb. This was if you have a reaction to one of the ingredients it will be easlier to identify it than starting with four or five things all at once. Some folks are very sensitive to herbs, we all react differently.

30 drops is about 1 dropper full. I think this is about 1/4 oz ???(I meant tsp) Just guessing Girlie will correct me

Good luck

Post Edited (tickbite666) : 1/6/2017 12:49:38 PM (GMT-7)

But, if you have lingering EBV ...it could be preventing full healing of Lyme...
So, good to address the EBV.

tickbite666 said...
Girlie,

What about my comment on 1 dropper = about 1/4 tsp? I recalled this topic not too long ago.


The only sx that I have common to the virus I tested positive for is the extreme fatigue. I have none of the typical Coxsackie or EBV sx. My LLMD is trying to cover all bases on why I can't get past 85% plateau.

That is correct. And if it's difficult to distinguish how full is full, it would also be 30 drops.

I would have to say that the more I deal with EBV and research it, it can be very debilitating for some. I can tell you that when my titers were coming down, I was feeling sooooo much better. Now that they've gone rogue again, I am having an uptick in all kinds of symptoms.

I have found that many in the medical community downgrade EBV, however EBV can lead to all sorts of diseases and issues, such as MS, cancer, etc. It hijacks your B cells and changes your DNA.

It really frustrates me that some doctors just shrug this off as something that's not important.

And Girlie is absolutely correct. EBV can be preventing your recovery from Lyme. In fact there are some doctors who believe that you deal with viruses first and then it's easier to heal from Lyme and co-infections.

This is a topic that I'll be revisiting at an upcoming appointment with my doctor.

So, there hasn't been any attention on viruses throughout my treatment.

Is it because I don't suffer from fatigue?

What is the best test to have to see if EBV has been reactivated?

What other symptoms should I be looking for?

Krimpet,

I started slow on 11/17/16 with a few drops, then went full dropper. Recently I doubled down to 2 droppers twice a day. Good thing this stuff is cheap compared to rest of herbs.