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Posted 6/9/2017 2:06 PM (GMT -5)
Hey everyone

Starting to get worried. I am one month into this and not seeming to get any better. The symptoms that got me worried in the beginning still exist even after being on my second round of abx.

My symptoms seem to be more neurological. Shaky hands, muscle twitching all over, poor sleep and my cheeks twitch when I smile and lots of fatigue. Anxiety is also rearing its ugly head. It just feels like my entire neuro system is under attack.

I have to wait until July 6 for my first llmd appointment. Anything in the interim I can do that will help? Are there things (foods, etc) that I should avoid?
Posted 6/9/2017 2:19 PM (GMT -5)
Hi Mike, avoiding gluten, sugar and dairy is advisable. And honesty, one month isn't long.

What are you doing for detox? Hang in there!
Posted 6/9/2017 2:24 PM (GMT -5)
Hi Mike - As kitty said - one month isn't a long time of treatment.

See if you can add more into your detox regimen.

Are you taking a binder?

How about something for the brain?
Posted 6/9/2017 2:24 PM (GMT -5)
Ok so this normal? It's always good to know that I am not alone. I'm failing on the detox. I've increased my magnesium and added in a liver support. Any ideas are very welcome? Could this be a hero? If so, how long does it last?
Posted 6/9/2017 2:30 PM (GMT -5)
You are taking probiotics daily, right?

My favorite detox is warm epsom salt baths...


You can add a binder as well...take with at least one full glass of water and a couple hours away (before and after) anything you want to be absorbed - food/abx/supplements.

Something for the brain:

- Nutramedix Pinella (goes well with the Burbur detox)

or

Jernigan's Neuro-AntitoxII - CNS/PNS
Posted 6/9/2017 2:37 PM (GMT -5)
Do you add hydrogen peroxide to the Epsom salt bath?

And can you give me a few examples of a binder
Posted 6/9/2017 2:41 PM (GMT -5)
Sometimes I add the hydrogen peroxide...but I don't seem to get any more improvement when I do. I am having the epsom salt baths now at least 4 days a week...some days more.

I do add a few drops of lavender and marjoram EO.

Binders: Activated Charcoal, Bentonite Clay (powdered), Chlorella, Cholestyramine (prescription med)

You can also dry brush your skin prior to the baths....gets rid of dead skin so it can expel toxins better and it also stimulates the lymphatic system.
Posted 6/9/2017 2:41 PM (GMT -5)
Mike - I was feeling better by the end of 1 month but before I started antibiox I did a month of a restricted diet and did lots of detoxing that month and during the antibiox. The second month of antibiox has been very up and down. I'm just now taking a break from antibiox and going herbal. I may end up back on antibiox.

I'm still new to all of this but here's the detox I do: glutathione, epsom/peroxide baths, lemon water, alka seltzer gold. I'm now starting to add in light exercise and stretching. I also go for acupuncture and massages.
Posted 6/9/2017 2:44 PM (GMT -5)
Why the Alka seltzer gold?
Posted 6/9/2017 2:45 PM (GMT -5)
AKG - changes an acid environment to alkaline...which is what we're striving for.
Posted 6/9/2017 2:46 PM (GMT -5)
Thanks and how often do you take it? Looks like I'm going to Target today
Posted 6/9/2017 2:54 PM (GMT -5)
And it's okay to detox while on abx?
Posted 6/9/2017 2:58 PM (GMT -5)
Absolutely and necessary!!!!!
Posted 6/9/2017 3:05 PM (GMT -5)
I could not find it at any store with-in 50 miles in my area. I had to order Alka-Seltzer Gold from Amazon. And I believe your auto-correct put 'HERO" instead of "HERX". But I'm not the one to answer that, I only had what I assume was a herx for a couple days after starting Doxy. But at the same time, it's so hard to tell if it's symptoms reappearing or a herx, no clue for me.
Posted 6/9/2017 3:31 PM (GMT -5)
I also wanted to ask about weightlifting and running. Good or bad?

Thanks again!!
Posted 6/9/2017 3:32 PM (GMT -5)
Mike - I found a post from 2014 that says they take it once a day for maintenance and twice a day for herxing

https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3539403
Posted 6/9/2017 3:33 PM (GMT -5)

Mike1977 said...
Thanks and how often do you take it? Looks like I'm going to Target today

If you're getting AKG - make sure it's the GOLD...not the 'regular' one.

Exercise is good - but not overdoing it. You don't want to tax your body...anymore than it already is.
Posted 6/9/2017 3:36 PM (GMT -5)
Mike, 2 alka-seltzer tablets up to twice a day. I take mine right after I take the l-glutithione. I also take 2 tabs of activated charcoal 2 hours away from any food, meds and supplements. It helps bind up the to ins so they can be eliminated from the body. Make sure you drink a bit of water with it so you don't get constipated. Chlorella is also a good binder and can be taken anytime. It helps the body to get rid of metals. I take both binders. 3,000 mg of vitamin C is great for you, too. Your LLMD will put you on the right track as far as supplements go.

Unfortunately, this journey will have many ups and downs. Just hang in there.

Patty
Posted 6/9/2017 3:51 PM (GMT -5)
I don't think you should be taking doxy with magnesuim. are you on doxy?
Posted 6/9/2017 3:56 PM (GMT -5)

chuck172 said...
I don't think you should be taking doxy with magnesuim. are you on doxy?

He can - just space it apart by a few hours. (if he is taking doxy)
Posted 6/9/2017 3:56 PM (GMT -5)
This round I am on cefuroxime. Magnesium ok?
Posted 6/9/2017 3:57 PM (GMT -5)
I did read that ceftin and mag shouldn't be taken together (that was when I was on it) If I'm remembering correctly - it can reduce the effectiveness of the Ceftin.


You just need to separate them by a few hours on either side...
Posted 6/9/2017 4:02 PM (GMT -5)
Since the epson salt baths have magnesium, should this be done in separation of time of taking abx?
Posted 6/9/2017 4:06 PM (GMT -5)
Does borrelia, Bart or Babs have more of a neuro impact?
Posted 6/9/2017 4:09 PM (GMT -5)

Mike1977 said...
Since the epson salt baths have magnesium, should this be done in separation of time of taking abx?

Yes. Your skin is a huge organ and it does absorb the magnesium from the epsom salt bath. Actually the reading I have done says that magnesium and sulfate are more easily absorbed through the skin than the stomach.
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