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Posted 7/4/2017 7:57 PM (GMT -5)
I have had yellow skin for at least a month but I thought maybe it was the lighting or my imagination. But today my brother, who never notices these things, commented that my skin was yellow.

Is it my liver? Could it be something else?

I am taking a lot of supplements to support various issues while on the Buhner protocol, dealing with lyme & bartonella, & have been concerned that my liver would need support to deal with all that I'm taking as well as the lyme & bart & candida.

I have been on milk thistle from the start of treatment & dandelion tincture as well. I also have been drinking lemon water the last 2 weeks. My diet is impeccable. I looked up liver support & I eat a lot of the foods suggested, as well as take ACV & kimchi/sauerkraut.

So I'm not sure it if is my liver, or if it could be something else. Any thoughts?
Posted 7/4/2017 8:40 PM (GMT -5)
After you rule out billiary or liver problems maybe look at what type of foods you are eating. I know a diet high in orange colored foods can turn your skin yellow/orange. I am sure others will be by to offer their opinions.

Patty
Posted 7/4/2017 10:04 PM (GMT -5)
I would definitely ask a real doctor about this.

One of my bosses had yellow skin and the whites of her eyes were yellowish. She had a partially blocked bile duct.

I would go to the doctor on this one.
Posted 7/4/2017 10:17 PM (GMT -5)
I'm with PeteZa and the others on this one about going to a doctor.

Also, double check that your Milk Thistle supplement is standardized milk thistle silybum flavinoids. I spent a year wasting my time with Milk thistle seed tincture and consider myself lucky that my liver tests came out ok every time. Buhner says the seed tincture is fine if you aren't sick.
Posted 7/4/2017 10:41 PM (GMT -5)
Julymorning - is it not possible to get a standardized milk thistle seed extract in a tincture form?

I've always bought the milk thistle seed extract in capsule form (standardized)
Posted 7/5/2017 5:33 AM (GMT -5)
It could be your liver or it could be from hemozoin. Hemozoin is a by-product of a protozoal infection like malaria or babesia. Many consider it to be the waste by-product of the parasite. Look at the palms of your hands and compare them to others in your family. You can often see the color in the palms better than the skin as they don't contain as much melanin.
Posted 7/5/2017 7:57 AM (GMT -5)
hmm interesting. I can't tell if my skin is yellowing because I have yellow Asian undertones but I did notice while doing yoga and staring at my toes it looked yellow. I'm quite disturbed by that.
Posted 7/5/2017 11:07 AM (GMT -5)
Check the whites of your eyes - if they are yellow tinged, then it's likely your liver. We can overload our liver even if we are doing things to help support it.

If the whites of your eyes have a yellow tinge, please stop all of your treatments and call your doctor, as you will need to flush your liver so that it doesn't get damaged. The yellow tinge in the whites of the eyes is a sign that the bilirubin levels in your body are too high and your liver is really struggling.
Posted 7/5/2017 8:59 PM (GMT -5)
OK, today I stopped all the herbs & supplements I've been taking, but I think I'll still take the milk thistle & dandelion.

This morning I did a liver flush recommended by Dr Mark Hyman. It consists of 2 TBSP olive oil with juice of 1/2 lemon. Follow that with a cup of hot water with juice of 1/2 lemon. I'll do that again tomorrow morning.

My daughter checked my eyes & said when I pull the eyelid down they are rimmed with yellow. I forgot to compare my palms with her palms, but it's pretty easy to see my face is yellow. Looks like I chose the wrong color make-up for my complexion! Terrible!

I was looking for a smooth-sailing ride to health & wholeness, treating this lyme! Not this up & down roller coaster ride! Guess I'll set up a doctor's appointment.

Thanks!
Posted 7/6/2017 10:36 AM (GMT -5)
Glad you chose to continue the liver helping herbs of milk thistle and dandelion. Keep up with the liver flush until the whites of your eyes are back to being 'white' - and do let us know what the doctor has to say!
Posted 7/7/2017 11:00 AM (GMT -5)
Thanks, Traveler, for your follow-up comment & interest. Very kind of you!

I had done the liver flush for 2 days & had been off all supplements but the milk thistle & dandelion for 24 hours before I actually saw the doctor. There was significant improvement in my appearance by that time! Altho he didn't see the yellow in my skin, I can still see tinges of it, but my eyes definitely looked better.

He complimented me on my choices of supplements & said I was well-educated about lyme & co-infections (thank you all here, on this forum who have supplied such great info & pointed me in the right direction early on!!!).

He ordered blood work to check on the liver. I told him that babesia can cause jaundice, so he ordered a blood test for that, altho I understand the likelihood of that showing up in blood work is pretty minimal.

So to reiterate for those who will read this thread in the future--yellow skin & jaundice can be caused by babesia & you will want to treat for that as well.

Best to you all!
Posted 7/7/2017 11:06 AM (GMT -5)
Patty-thanks: I have not been eating an inordinate amount of orange foods.

Georgia Hunter-thanks; I just re-read your post & see you suggested babesia or malaria as possible causes of yellow skin.

PeteZa & others-thank you for encouraging me to go to the doctor. I can easily dismiss symptoms & assume they will resolve themselves, especially since I don't like going to doctors. Once you all sounded concerned it prompted me to do a bit more research & learn that there could be some serious stuff going on that I shouldn't overlook.

You guys are great! And I really appreciate all the help you've been to me over these last few months.
Posted 7/7/2017 11:10 AM (GMT -5)
Wonderful results, HzKabod! Congratulations! Yes, the liver can be a very responsive organ, once we understand what is going wrong.

Sounds like you had a pretty good appt too! Congratulations on the compliment from the doctor!!! That doesn't happen often!

I'm so glad that this community has been of such help to you! That's the goal!

Best of luck!
Posted 7/7/2017 12:29 PM (GMT -5)

HzKabod said...
Thanks, Traveler, for your follow-up comment & interest. Very kind of you!

I had done the liver flush for 2 days & had been off all supplements but the milk thistle & dandelion for 24 hours before I actually saw the doctor. There was significant improvement in my appearance by that time! Altho he didn't see the yellow in my skin, I can still see tinges of it, but my eyes definitely looked better.

He complimented me on my choices of supplements & said I was well-educated about lyme & co-infections (thank you all here, on this forum who have supplied such great info & pointed me in the right direction early on!!!).

He ordered blood work to check on the liver. I told him that babesia can cause jaundice, so he ordered a blood test for that, altho I understand the likelihood of that showing up in blood work is pretty minimal.

So to reiterate for those who will read this thread in the future--yellow skin & jaundice can be caused by babesia & you will want to treat for that as well.

Best to you all!

Yay - you're already having improvement. And I'm glad you are having blood work to check your liver function just to be sure.
Posted 7/8/2017 1:49 PM (GMT -5)
Yes, I feel good about the decision to get the blood work. Not feeling great today. Maybe detox symptoms? I'll rest more. Lyme & co is not fun.
Posted 7/8/2017 2:30 PM (GMT -5)

HzKabod said...
Lyme & co is not fun.

Now that is an understatement! yeah
Posted 7/9/2017 4:19 PM (GMT -5)
Ever test with 23andMe?

There are many liver gene issues that can make it hard to detox, I have some bad ones. Dr said this makes a diff in alcoholics who live or die, and said its best I never take up alcoholism (bad joke, but true).

So yes, I've been yellow, with high bilirubin and high liver enzymes. I take D-Limonene every other day and it is the best sup one can take with liver Phaze II detox issues.
Posted 7/9/2017 4:21 PM (GMT -5)
Please make sure you let us know how the blood work comes out.

So very glad you are better, I was a tad worried. Mother hen that I am.
Posted 7/9/2017 4:28 PM (GMT -5)

Girlie said...
Julymorning - is it not possible to get a standardized milk thistle seed extract in a tincture form?

I've always bought the milk thistle seed extract in capsule form (standardized)

I would have no idea, as I don't know what every company carries, only the one I order from. Doesn't matter anyway, looks like it was only been an issue for me using the wrong form.
Posted 7/9/2017 4:48 PM (GMT -5)
The active ingredient -- the one that protects the liver -- in milk thistle is known as silymarin, a chemical extracted from the seeds. Silymarin is actually a group of flavonoids (silibinin, silidianin, and silicristin), which are thought to help repair liver cells damaged by alcohol and other toxic substances.

The tincture I used was Silymarin marianum.
Posted 7/26/2017 9:35 PM (GMT -5)
Quick update--my liver enzymes are fine--thankfully! Beta carotene is high. The phone message from the doctor was to cut back on that. haha In other words, he doesn't what I'm taking that is causing the yellow skin.

Any ideas? I'm on Buhner herbs. And a bunch of support supplements.
Posted 7/26/2017 10:23 PM (GMT -5)
The Babesia?
Posted 7/26/2017 10:41 PM (GMT -5)
Oh my.... I wonder if you have a virus? Like Mono? That can cause yellow skin sometimes. Just guessing. I certainly am not a doctor. Just glad that your liver enzymes are doing good.

It now becomes a process of elimination or the lyme guessing game.

Lyme stinks and we never know if those symptoms require a doctor or are they just part of the lyme symptom list.
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