Band 41 possible causes besides Borrelia

Obviously Borrelia will cause band 41 to show up on the WLB test but does anyone know all the other possibilities that can cause band 41 to show as abnormal/positive?

band 41 means flagella! , if you dont have syphalis or leptospirosis then its borrelia(you would know if you had the first 2) .. see dr mr post on band 41 or dr c western blot explanation(google)

some bs id ducs will try to say ebv makes 41 light up but thats isda cdc bs imo

Post Edited (bluelyme) : 7/18/2017 12:27:44 AM (GMT-6)

mrdude said...
I would like to know this also. My test came back saying the Western Blot IgM was detected and the comments noted the bands were p41, OspC and Osp17.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC145497/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10363678

Check these articles out. Ospc and osp17.

Post Edited (Shellazae) : 7/18/2017 1:58:52 AM (GMT-6)

Shellazae said...
Mr. Dude,
I think IGM means a recent infection. Does this sound right? Are you being treated for Lyme disease then?

Well the LLMD in Australia said I have Lyme. I am currently taking a mixture of abx and some herbs. Check my post history for my treatment.

Initial symptoms started approx. 2 years ago and have only started treatment 2-3 weeks ago. My symptoms have not been completely debilitating but I am trying to deal with the issue before it gets any worse (if it gets worse).

​Bands 18 & 41 (whether in IgM or IgG) are indicative of the tail of the bacteria, which can cross react with other Spirochetal bacteria such as Relapsing Fever, Pintas and Yaws, and Syphilis.

Here are a couple of articles that go into all the different types of spirochetal infections:
www.clinicaladvisor.com/hospital-medicine/spirochete-infections/article/604973/


www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/bacteria/spirochetes.html

Shellazae said...

Girlie said...

Shellazae said...
Mr. Dude,
I think IGM means a recent infection. Does this sound right? Are you being treated for Lyme disease then?

No, IgM means active infection - it can be an older one.

I was IgM positive after 15 months of symptoms.

Lyme behaves differently than other diseases. In Lyme the IgM can stay for many months to years.

That's interesting. Where is the line between active and dormant? So why is my igm not showing as active and I feel like I am on my death bed? Just not sensitive enough tests?

What were your test results?

We can have an active infection, but not producing the antibodies because our immune function isn't able to mount the response...this can happen when we're sick with lyme.
That's why there are so many false negatives. Our bodies just aren't producing the required antibodies...from immune suppression.

So i had most of my family get tested and they have all come back with at least band 41. My brother also had 58. I am trying to find out the other things that can cross react with band 41 besides Lyme disease. I tried looking at some of the links but I don't know if it's still very clear. Can anyone clarify?

is there a panel of tests that can be done looking for infections like these or do u have to get lucky and just happen to find a doctor that recognizes 1. That you have an infection in the first place 2. That it's a particular bacteria. I don't think a doctor has ever tested me for any of these. Maybe everything besides Lyme shows up on a CBC?