Bitten by tick 2 weeks ago in Poland, asking for advice

Welcome Lila Moon and so sorry you got bit.

I have learned that in many cases of treating lyme you get worse before you get better.

What did your doctor say about feeling badly after taking the medicines?

Hi Lila,
So sorry you got bit but good to hear you are treating it. It is common to feel "worse" before you feel better. How long will you be on antibiotics. In the US among many Lyme doctors (not our regular ones), it is recommended that you take 30 days since you caught it pretty early. The life cycle of Lyme is over 20 days long.

Make sure to take probiotics as well at least 2 hours away from the antibiotics or they won't work. Eating yogurt and fermented vegetables is good too. Hopefully the homeopathy and antibiotics will take care of it.

The pain should go away after awhile. The longer you have had Lyme the longer it takes to feel better.

It's amazing that you got bitten less than a month, and you got joint pain with doxy already!

It can mean Borrelia already reached your joints...

I had the EM rash 10 days after tick bite in Switzerland. The local doctor gave me doxy too, but the rash disappeared fast with it. Before doxy, the rash grew very fast.

Take things to clean your body, and the probiotics. You may try that doxy approach for 4-6 weeks, but if the problems remain, I would not continue on doxy only (I'd either add other antibiotics or shift to other types of treatments).

That's what I would do. My daughter stayed 6 weeks on amoxi (she was too small for doxy) and developed arthritis in spite of it. She had to stop antibiotics and move to other treatments.

I wonder what is Luban C30. I never heard of it.

Dispacus, is teasel, but the species you take I never took.

I know that Dipsacus sylvestris treat lyme arthritis here in Germany / Switzerland. You can also make tincture with it (root, if my memory is good).

Chances to completely heal, only you can say.

If you take doxy and still do not improve after 2 weeks, you can continue until 6 weeks.
But if during these 6 weeks, you see it's not working, the curve is going more downwards without going upwards, I would already search for alternative solutions.

You can continue taking it till you reach 6 weeks, but while you take it, research alternatives.Just in case it does not work.
That is why I would do.

It could be that coinfections are making the problem worse, and that you need tuning or other antibiotics or herbs.

In the past, people said that 4 weeks doxy would do the job. Then 6 weeks doxy would do.

The truth is that it is different for everyone, and there is no guarantee, anyway.
Just keep treating, watch how your body progresses. If you regress only (and gain more and more pain, more and more fatigue), well, it's time to search for alternatives.

I see you are seeing someone with knowledge of homeopathy, but I have no idea what Luban is...

Ask your practitioner about Ledum palustre, about your constitutional remedy and Aurum arsenicosum.

I also took a lot of homeopathy. There are also Borrelia burgdorferi nosodes. Today I know they are powerful tools too, but few homeopaths use these nosodes thoroughly.

Dr. W in Germany uses borrelia nosodes in these potencies: D5, D6, D12, D30, D60, D100, D200, then shift to C potencies. My body and my daughter's really fared well on nosodes.

Let us know how it goes, I hope you will find some relief and that those 4-6 weeks doxy will do the whole job of curing your lyme fast!!

Dipsacus fullonum" ("Wilde Karden" Urtincture) - yes this is called Teasel Root in the west and sylvestris and fullonum are used as names interchangeably. it is good for treating lyme long term if u were unlucky enough not to catch it on time (WHICH YOU HAVE).

so please dont rely on herbs only and start using the antibiotics in the dosage Girlie recommended.

the problem with herbs is u need time to see what works for u, supposed your herb supplier gives u an extract that is less potent this year, maybe the crops were not as good, you dont want to learn 6 months later that u should have taken 10 drops of teasel root not 5 and that your dose was not enough for it to kill the bacteria.

doxy always comes in same 100mg pills guaranteed and if u take a higher dose like the one mentioned by Girlie u are covered.

u can maybe take both the herb and doxy just to be sure, discuss this with a lyme dr.

Correction:
I took: Ledum C30 1 globuli (Luban is the nearby town...lol).

My German doc thinks 2x 200 mg is too much as the German "Ärzteblatt info" with many statistics say 2x 100 mg is enough. He thinks I should take the ABX for 14 days. I have a pack of 50x 100 mg. They need prescription in Germany, where we bought them.
My body weight is between 60 and 70 kg.
I printed the "Guidelines" of the International Lyme and Assosiated Society you send me the link of for him to reconsider.
Meanwhile, I am 3 days on Doxy 2 x 100 mg now, the pain from my arm moved to all over my back (as if I was beaten up) and into my legs.
I do not understand that inspite of taking ABX the pain is expanding to new areas.
Did anyone of you had this experience?

The rush is improving though. It went a little blueish yesterday evening and is now definitely improved (less red and tender skin)

So all in all there is a lot of movement every day.

Which would be the best probiotics (& dosage) to take in your collective experienced opinion?

I like to THANK all of you from the bottom of my heart for your kind and helpful replies.
It gives me the feeling of not being alone in this.

LilaMoon

Post Edited (Lila Moon) : 8/17/2017 11:30:54 AM (GMT-6)

Can you go to another Dr. and get a second prescription for doxy?