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Posted 8/30/2017 1:25 PM (GMT -5)
I have been battling lyme, metals, mold, and co infections for a few years.
I used to sleep 8-10 solid hours of REM. Then when I contracted mold in my home I would wake up at 2am every night (just a guess it's mold related), I then contacted a tick bite/lyme a few years later and sleep got worse.
Last two years I could sleep from 10pm -2am Then I'm up from that point on. Now I'm in bed by 10pm and up by 11pm then can't sleep. I am slowly dying. I can't function like this.
I've tried all sorts of sleep remedies, NONE OF THEM WORK. With Benedryl I used to be knocked out for 4 solid hours or more. Now I'm up in an hour after I lay down.
What combinations work for you?
HELP!
Posted 8/30/2017 1:35 PM (GMT -5)
I'm thinking you tried Melatonin.

Did you increase it? I've read that people sometimes under-dose - as in 1 mg...try it again and raise it..if you did only do a low dose.


I found Valerian got me to sleep quickly...but I would wake up 4 hours later.
Posted 8/30/2017 1:36 PM (GMT -5)
How are you treating yourself for these ailments? Do you have protocols that you're following?

A lot of sleep issues have to do more with our inner rhythms than anything else - meaning we've simply fallen out of rhythm with ourselves and the natural world. We're on automatic and our internal clocks are off. Basically, we're out of synch. So it's probably impossible to get normal sleep under these conditions. There are a few ways to get back on track. Google healing rhythms.

Sedatives, music, warm baths, relaxation, dark room, calcium/mag/d supplementation, herbs - valerian, catnip, oatstraw there are many.
Posted 8/30/2017 2:04 PM (GMT -5)
Also - have you had a 4 point cortisol test done?

It could be you're cortisol is spiking in the late evening when it should be low.
Posted 8/30/2017 4:18 PM (GMT -5)
Your sleep patterns are exactly like mine. I had the four point cortisol test done. Levels were normal except for 10pm. That was through the roof. The pattern fits.
Posted 8/30/2017 4:36 PM (GMT -5)
I had same sleep pattern. It progressed this summer (was in mold) to waking up 30 minutes after falling asleep and then maybe falling back asleep at 4 or 5 am for a few hours. It was getting bad. I was also on antibiotics which always exacerbate insomnia for me.

I have found taking modified citrus pectin (4-6 pills away from food/meds) to really help me. It is a binder often used for mold - but weaker than CSM. I've tried different sleep meds (ambien, xanax), l-theanine, magnesium, ashwaghanda, holy basil, gaba, melatonin, valerian and probably others I can't recall. Xanax does work but only for a few weeks then my body adjusts and it no longer worked. Ambien didn't do a thing for me. I recently bought "Sleep Thru" from Gaia and it seems to help a little too. It has a few things in it that I never tried - passionflower and willow bark i think? I still wake up right now but I'm able to get back to sleep fairly quickly and have been dreaming the last week. So for me, it's a combination right now of MCP (modified citrus pectin), holy basil, magnesium and Sleep Thru (which also has ashwaghanda in it).
Posted 8/30/2017 9:07 PM (GMT -5)
Thank you for the replies. I've tried tried up to 5mg melatonin several brands, doesn't mean make difference. I've completed the 4 point cortisol andnit spikes at night when I'm supposed to be asleep and it's low when I'm at work which is why im so tired all the time. I'm about to take take it again ts prob a lot worse. I'm going to try a diff combination of melatonin and some other stuff. I've tried cbd oil too several brands none of it works. I'll try to do binders
Posted 8/31/2017 12:34 AM (GMT -5)

lymehater said...
Thank you for the replies. I've tried tried up to 5mg melatonin several brands, doesn't mean make difference. I've completed the 4 point cortisol andnit spikes at night when I'm supposed to be asleep and it's low when I'm at work which is why im so tired all the time. I'm about to take take it again ts prob a lot worse. I'm going to try a diff combination of melatonin and some other stuff. I've tried cbd oil too several brands none of it works. I'll try to do binders

Hi LH

I had horrible insomnia, probs sleeping more than a few hours and extreme exhaustion during waking hours.

For me The combo that has helped most has been
8 pm neuro ps
9 pm Gabapentin
10pm two Benadryl, 5 mg melatonin and 30 mg Restoril and of course "assuming the position" which is the hardest part when you're afraid to lay in bed waiting and dreading lol.

I hope you find relief.

VCL
Posted 8/31/2017 1:26 AM (GMT -5)
Lymehater - First, keep battling the infections. As you knock them down you will sleep better.

2nd - If your cortisol is out of whack, consider this: https://www.amazon.com/Integrative-Therapeutics-Ingredients-Ashwagandha-L-Theanine/dp/B0031TRUOG/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1504160585&sr=8-1&keywords=cortizol+manager

3rd - Biopure came out with a liposomal melatonin that gets into the brain very easily. Maybe try that and report back. I've never tried it, but it's a good concept.

4th - I use this: https://www.amazon.com/Irwin-Naturals-Power-Economy-Supplement/dp/B005S6XHJW/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1504160752&sr=8-1&keywords=power+to+sleep+pm

It works well most nights. Sometimes I combine it with more valerian.

5th - High dose magnesium before bed will help calm you down and reduce restless legs at night.
Posted 8/31/2017 4:47 AM (GMT -5)
If anxiety is high, for me, it's usually toxins, infections or EMR.

Waking up at certain hours could be tooth problems (infections, dead tooth, toxins).
Posted 8/31/2017 9:59 AM (GMT -5)
Hi.
I have no anxiety no stress. My cortisol levels are reversed and I'm not sure how to fix it. I've gone to many useless doctors that provide NO remedies that work.
How long does it take to reverse the cortisol levels?
I have tried Gaba, Valerian, Melatonin, CBD oil, and some other blends my doctors have told me.
I haven't tried mixing these I just take it by itself. Maybe I should mix them up into a fun combo and see how it goes.
I really want to know what to take to actually reverse the cortisol levels instead of just taking herbs/pills to let me sleep. The underlying issue needs to be addressed. I have no idea why my cortisol levels are like this. I used to sleep 8-14 hours easily.
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