astroman said...
Georgia-

"It would be interesting to see if your stools sink or float after oral magnesium supplementation."

Stinky subject, but what would the above outcomes mean?

While I have no research literature to support my thoughts, I have had stools sink the day after herxing. They normally float so why would they suddenly sink after a herx? I have tried to keep my diet consistent to rule out any dietary variables and that may indicate I was eliminating something that made my stools heavy. It fits with the concept of metal mobilization during a herx but there could be other factors involved.

To The Warrior,

I think I have a similar reaction to you, with zinc supplements.

It has nothing to do with killing, mobilizing. It's an immediate problem that comes, as you describe, only with powder / dust amounts, by touching the tongue.

I get a sort of shut out feeling, as though that was extremely dangerous. I will develop joint pains, even hot fevers from it, night sweats etc. From that 'dust'.

People try to force theories on me, saying it's from heavy metals moving. It's not. There is barely time for zinc to enter my system and I shut down.

My daughter reacts the same way. And we will be bed ridden if we insist in continuing to take DUST amounts of it.

It's been a puzzle for more than 10 years, the only thing practitioners can do is try energy types of zinc (which my body accepts), but when we move to real chemical zinc, I get shut again.

Today I did an experiment, after a self treatment with some quantum discs called Quantum Alignment Discs, and after took a WHOLE capsule of zinc. First time in many many years, since I first realized that zinc supplements made me so ill.

Let's see how it goes.

It took me more than an hour to figure out a way to first take drops of extremely diluted zinc (that I usually already react), then to finally put the whole capsule of that B-Life Protect HPU supplement in my tongue and ingest it.

I had then to do all sorts of things to make my body accept it, without entering in a sort of EXTREME fight or flight mode, which happens immediately after ingestion. Quite many hours passed, so far so good...


But there are people reacting the same way with chlorella (by vomiting, being poisoned by it) or with sulfur (violent reactions).

Whatever this is, I think the body recognizes these substances as being POISONs - possibly because these substances do have some function of cleaning the body and POSSIBLY the body recognizes them like they WERE the poison.. Then reject it.

that's just my theory.

I became so sensitive that I can't take any fulvic acids, no mineral supplementation that has zinc, etc. They all make me so ill, before they can do any function of cleaning or as coenzymes...

And zinc is essential for healing, as well as magnesium. There are many different types of magnesium and I tried so many of them. Magnesium citrate or magnesium malate, my body accepts well.

With the zinc, there are studies showing part of the problem, to my understanding. That 's in the KPU or HPU research.

They say, for some UNKNOWN reasons, some people simply dump zinc off in the urine, in great amounts, without utilizing it.

Why the h... can we, most lyme sufferers, most autistic children, etc simply dump one of the most important minerals (zinc) for the immune system? that has been my question for years.

Whatever the reason, the body's regulation and metabolism is doing something that looks opposite to good, as though it was 'broken'. Same happens with very toxic people taking chlorella.

A sort of extreme reaction of repulsion to the very substances that may heal them.

They react so violently against it, like more violent than an allergy, with vomiting, extreme diarrhea, exactly like food poisoning!

I'll be trying to survive this week with my one capsule of zinc a day and let you guys know.

But I do understand what you mean, Warrior. I think I do, at least...
for me the best word that describes my body reaction is 'poisoned'.

Post Edited (Jinna) : 9/18/2017 1:53:32 PM (GMT-6)

WalkbyFaith... Many more people are having that problem of violent rejection of supplements or binders...

Plus the histmine problem, that virtually affects every lyme patient, to a bigger or lesser extent.

I do think though there is a difference between allergy and those violent reactions, such as mine to zinc, The Warrior's to magnesium, probably yours to chlorella.

I meet more and more people reacting like hell to MSM, for example, one of the most potent binders. They are said to have some sulfur detox pathways blocked, but as I told above, there is a sort of 'general' problem of lack of homeostasis going on, to so many people...

Don't take the chlorella again. Unless you do some sort of treatment with it, like I'm trying with zinc.
Zinc did ONLY harm to me, it never helped me solve the KPU problem.

I swear I've been trying it for more than 10 years. I threw so many bottles of expensive supplements containing zinc, as they expired.

You know how I can see if I can take zinc or not?
I'm super sensitive, and have been training on energy testing for about 15 years, daily. So my sensitivity only increased.

But even not-so sensitive people can do a test, on their own.

Buhner explains one technique:
- put just ONE drop of a tincture (or dust from powders) on your tongue and observe your body's reaction.

The reaction is from the electric impulses from NERVES, not from chemistry.
So it's immediate.

That is how animals feel what harms them.
They go close to a plant, if they feel rejection, anxiety, 'bad vibes', they do not take it.

If they feel good, relaxing, kindness, good vibes, they may stay close to a plant, or eat it.

Once you put already in your mouth, the reaction is much stronger than only if you get it close by.
By watching your reactions (it's really a nerve-reaction!), you know whether it is poisonous or not.

that is how muscle tests work (when they work). It takes about 1 second to get a reaction.

Only when the substance is neutral, you feel nothing, no positive nor negative effects.

I haven't taken zinc today, because I had to help someone with my photon device (afraid to crash before the lady came...).

But I'll take now (after I do my test above, as I explained you...).

Good you don't have the HPU problem!!! Every person, as said, is different.

Chlorella was my MAIN herb during lyme, though. I still take it regularly.

Post Edited (Jinna) : 9/19/2017 7:06:09 AM (GMT-6)