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Posted 9/23/2017 5:01 AM (GMT -5)
so have tested positive for lyme and babs, and have treated with both abx and now herbs and rife over last 2 yrs

my well known LLMD feels bart is a big issue...but stopped seeing him bc of $, my naturopath who uses electrodermal screening put me on houttanyia

now at very end of the bottle, at 20 drops 2x a day, along with rifing,and i started to have "new symptoms"- dry itchy eyes, worse insomnia, pain on soles, achy shins,quads, forearms

obviously all bart symptoms, so llmd was right...

my question is, these werent here before i began treating the bart...is this a herx or a flare? should i cut back on treatment, or push on?? i can deal with pain, but the eye issues are alarming...

dont want to make eyes worse, but then again maybe the treatment is actually working, and if i soldier on theyll get better???

the houttanyia is gone, but i dont know if i should keep actively treating bc it is on the run and im making progress or should i just take a few wks off...i had been told you have to rife for bart everyday...

and yes i am detoxing (lemon water, burbur, charcoal, epsom, dandelion tea)

plz any input is appreciated
Posted 9/23/2017 5:15 AM (GMT -5)
It sounds like the treatment has found some more Bart.

It does sound like herxing. I had very minimal Bart symptoms until I started a new abx back in February and then wham major Bart symptoms came out. But that is good so that I could address it and treat it more.

I would suggest to just back off a bit but still take the houttanyia just less until the symptoms die down but continue treating.

Concerning the rife treatment, I am not knowledgeable enough about that but I know others are and hopefully they will chime in.

If you don't get a response I would re post specifically asking about the rife and what to do.


Hang in there, I have been unsure and uneasy about what to do before also. Backing off when herxing has worked for me. I'm still fighting the Bart but I am making progress .

I do take much more than the houtt though. Using Buhners Bart protocol.

Take care, Jo
Posted 9/23/2017 10:51 AM (GMT -5)
are you using binders? Try taking some lipoic acid (will bind fat soluble toxins) and charcoal. that will help.

meanwhile please check out my thread on DMSO. Its a wonder drug, and I think will really help you.

what rife device are you using and which frequencies are you using?
Posted 9/23/2017 1:16 PM (GMT -5)
Sounds like Bart. I never recovered from that co-infection. I did not improve on herbs. Only on antibiotics.

Hopefully you have more luck eradicating this persistent co-infection. It is my personal opinion that Bartonella is the cause of what is called 'Post-Lyme Syndrome'. I think it is the culprit of what is called chronic Lyme in a large percentage of cases.
Posted 9/23/2017 4:53 PM (GMT -5)
Thank you Jo....yes im using both charcoal and ala, Lapis....i have a gb4000, and have mainly used freq from my naturopath that are specific to the infection in me (if that is to be believed), along with a couple from the cafl
Posted 9/23/2017 5:19 PM (GMT -5)
Bart will often flare when you do something that it doesnt like, but if what you are doing is effective the flares become less prominent than previous ones, which indicates that what you are doing is working. Keep at it.
Posted 9/23/2017 8:35 PM (GMT -5)

dbwilco said...
Thank you Jo....yes im using both charcoal and ala, Lapis....i have a gb4000, and have mainly used freq from my naturopath that are specific to the infection in me (if that is to be believed), along with a couple from the cafl

ok great! you actually have a good machine, not a piece of crap like so many.

here is the deal, the CAFL freqs are hit and miss, mostly miss. These right here are the freqs that really work! this lady uses the DNA genome to mathematicaly calculate the kill freq of each pathogen. I used my rife machine for years with little affect, when i started using the DNA freqs...BAM! big affects.

you have to register and get a key to order, but they are SO worth it. let me know if you have any questions.

http://www.dnafrequencies.com/

also try modified citrus pectin as a binder, it will help.
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