bvt thread - Part 2

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So during treatment i stopped looking at my blood for a bit because i was discouraged. .i checked with iv rocephin and iv silver and ozone and peroxide and they were still there. The bee venom makes em hide .they hate it when venom is there none are visable in the plasma . When i lyse the cells the ketes come out ...not swarms like before . So i treat 1x a week with venom 1 with rife and alinia with some houttynia tinture for maintenance. I did a stain and did see some bart intercelluarly too...so i imagine its a waiting gaime . If it take 7 yrs to replace all cells i will make it unbearable for them in my body for as long as i can take it ..maybe life ...im probably 80 of the person i was before lyme did its ravishing and i took action .remember i had als type syptoms ...i am a walking talking miracle

Even though a systemic active infection is Visable, though i not energetically testing for lyme or bart . I am rebuilding nerves slowly and going after proto and candida slowly . I still have my port and am pondering 10 pass and more pk protocol . As long as there are ketes in my blood i will be putting venom to chase em down ! I trust my eyes and microscope a bit more than kinesiology however the later got me here .

The proof is in the pudding sapi proved it works !

Girlie,I am not seeing them in the blood plasma ...however i am seeing them inside the rbc ...i thought i would make the distinction. Also dime to dollar anybody else in remission will still have borrelia intercellularly....

Hey bluelyme,

In the previous thread you said you might be able to help me find an apitherapist in my area. I'd be interested in that. Feel free to shoot me an email or I can send you one with my location?

Thanks.

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sure thing artermix ...anyone can pm me over on on lymenet if ever...

gabybee congrats on your successes ,will you post your experience with bvt her please?

bump for elvin

Bump for solaris ...go to part 1

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amber rose is great i hope to interview her soon ...her book is great ...she has worked with elle lobel and hers is a more holistic approach less dogmatic and incorporated some Chinese health models and acupuncture points . she is amoung the pioneers like charles mraz and pat wagner and brad weeks md .

main takeaways are ...start slow , ramp up to dose steadily(start and stop a no,no) ,lots of daily buffered vit c , have epi pen and benadryl on hand , anti itch creme for first month or two and some ice packs , tweezers sets(i use reversible and super fine tip ) and boxes later will help when u do microstings etc .

regarding herxes ...they were subtle yet defined, some think that they are allergic to venom in reality is a strong local infestation and or herx is mistaken ...at first lots of energy then it made me tired as adrenals recovered then it stabilized me ...the very best herx i had was iv rocephin , 30 bees , iv silver and andrographis herb mix in 1 day ! ...i about plotzed then felt great !....

Post Edited (bluelyme) : 7/18/2018 7:55:33 PM (GMT-6)

Yesterday I had my 4th or 5th BVT session.
I've tolerated the previous sessions quite well.
I've been getting 2 stings per session on the shoulders for some time now. Not very regularly I must admit. Last time I got 3 stings and tolerated it quite well. Only a minor herx.

OK so yesterday I got 3 stings from 3 different bee hives. Not sure how smart that was.
Anyways I supposedly tolerated all 3 stings and felt great that evening.
Went to bed quite late but slept pretty tight until 8am ( thank you bees) . Suddenly jumped out of bed with lots of pain, fatigue, weakness. Throughout the whole entire day I felt like crap, as if I'm becoming sick if that makes any sense lol. It definitely wasn't a typical herx reaction. Morning temp was normal but evening temp is slightly elevated at give or take 100° F
Which actually is the highest body temperature I've achieved in years. I usually only reach 99.5° F ( the typical bartonella temperature AFAIK).

OK so the 2 sting sites on the shoulders look as expected. Slightly reddish without any significant swelling or pain. These 2 sting sites have been stung before unlike the forearm.
The 3rd sting site on my forearm on the other hand looks very swollen and dark red. It doesn't really hurt much, only a bit of itching. Should I be worried?
Overall I've been feeling less miserable this evening when compared to during the day. The extreme fatigue and weakness have subsided somewhat as well as the body aches. Body temperature is currently at 99.5°F .
Why did I feel so sick today? I felt perfectly fine yesterday and the day before.
Thanks for answers.

Post Edited (insomniaaa) : 12/28/2020 3:15:37 PM (GMT-7)

when i asked the nurse in a aside at the lyme clinic, if any one ever graduated lyme school ,ever ?! he said only the ones that do bvt w/"....did you order up some test bees ? get a epi?