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Posted 4/30/2018 3:06 PM (GMT -5)
Hi everyone,

I just thought I'd pop in and give you all an update because I remember searching the forum for people's success stories. Anyways, I'm not going to say that I'm 100% better because I'm not. I still have slight fatigue and I have brain fog, rage, and depression every so often but I have my life back.

I used to spend the majority of my time on this forum, searching for answers to why I wasn't getting better, looking for supplements that would make a difference. Thousands of dollars later, nothing really made a difference. That is, until I tried bee venom therapy.

I suffered from debilitating gut issues after being on probiotics for two years, my diet was so restrictive, I had severe depression and anxiety, as well as rage, to the point where I felt like a zombie every day. I used to tell my significant other "If I don't get better by this time next year, I'll kill myself. There's no way I can continue living a life like this." I felt so hindered in every single aspect of my life, from fatigue and weakness, neurological symptoms like hands being numb, anemia, neurotransmitter imbalances, and viruses like mono and hhv6. Despite trying to treat these things with antibiotics, antivirals, and various tinctures, nothing seemed to work.

It's been 4.5 months since I began bee venom therapy and it is by far the cheapest and most life-altering treatment. I could barely handle getting myself to class, let alone keeping up with my friends. I lost so many friendships. Now, after taking a brief break to go live at home, I decided to move to los angeles with my friend, have energy to run errands, furnish my apartment, have gone on interviews, applied to jobs, made new friends, gone on a few dates, even had a drink.

Yeah, maybe people are scared of bee venom therapy, but when you are desperate for a cure, as desperate as I was (and I know many of you are too) everything sort of falls away. You would do anything to get your life back and return to the person that you used to be. I am finally seeing myself again.
Posted 4/30/2018 4:42 PM (GMT -5)
Hi gabybee,

I am so happy for yousmile and thank you so very much for returning to share your success story with all of us.
It is so important for members to hear these stories of healing and the different treatment paths that members take.

I wish you continued success and I wish you a blessed life ahead.
Posted 4/30/2018 4:51 PM (GMT -5)
Awesome! Can you describe how you take it? Do you have to become a full time bee keeper or thing like that?
Posted 4/30/2018 4:58 PM (GMT -5)
gabybee,

Thank you so much for sharing. I pray you will continue to improve and get to 100%.

Any advice for those who fear bvt because they fear they might be allergic?

What is it about bee venom that works for Lyme? Does it work for coinfections, too, or just Lyme? How did you get started?
Posted 4/30/2018 5:05 PM (GMT -5)
Wonderful news! Thanks so much for sharing. I'd love to hear more too. Hope the rest of your symptoms go away soon.
Posted 4/30/2018 5:38 PM (GMT -5)
There is research on it, but not much. I recommend anyone who is interested in learning more to join the Facebook group "Bee Venom Therapy for Lyme Disease." You will have access to several studies as well as the protocol that has been developed.

I have Bartonella and Lyme Disease and the protocol has been helping both. It is said to help with coinfections as well, the only thing it doesn't work with is mold.

Bee venom is an antiviral, antifungal, and antibacterial.

With the protocol one would first do a test sting, which is using the bee to sting yourself and then immediately pulling the stinger out. You have to have an epipen in hand in case of anaphylaxis. Eventually you work up to 10 stings, 3x a week. You can't go beyond that because it's too tough on the liver and kidneys.

I had read about Bee venom therapy on the forum and always thought it was wacky and that I would never try it, but the day came when I was desperate and I'm so glad that I got to that point.

You can order bees from a variety of places: my favorite is Allen's bees. The Facebook group should have a few suggestions on farmers you can get them from.
Posted 4/30/2018 5:42 PM (GMT -5)
elvin there is a bee venom thread here also fb groups .if you are interested
i am so stoked to hear gabybee is back . the bees work

walkingbtfaith its the mettlin .sapi has a paper 3x more effective than 3 abx together,works great on babs and myco, bart need a little herbal help species dependent imho

we do
10-30 bees depending on ones constitution and use acupuncture points for extra healing mojo
iv glut and vit c can allow for higher dosing

Post Edited (bluelyme) : 4/30/2018 4:45:12 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 5/1/2018 9:07 PM (GMT -5)
Hi gabybee -

Thank you for sharing this with us. I hope you continue to improve until you are completely symptom free!.

I think you meant to say "antibiotics" in this sentence: "I suffered from debilitating gut issues after being on probiotics for two years...."

( not 'probiotics')
Posted 5/2/2018 8:18 AM (GMT -5)
Hi gabybee,

Just wanted to say congratulations on feeling better from this protocol! Just goes to show different protocols work for different people...

Keep up the good work!
Denise
Posted 5/2/2018 9:01 AM (GMT -5)
Thats great to hear! Can you share with us what all is involved with the therapy and where you got it at?
Posted 5/2/2018 10:48 AM (GMT -5)

eldonkey said...
Thats great to hear! Can you share with us what all is involved with the therapy and where you got it at?

You mean the BVT?


Here's a link to the thread:

/www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3970235
Posted 5/2/2018 12:12 PM (GMT -5)
Gabybee, Bluelyme

is this something your LLMD administers (injection)? I'm interested in trying it, but doubt my LLMD works with this protocol. Can I buy the venon without a prescription?
Posted 5/2/2018 12:25 PM (GMT -5)

caramba said...
Gabybee, Bluelyme

is this something your LLMD administers (injection)? I'm interested in trying it, but doubt my LLMD works with this protocol. Can I buy the venon without a prescription?

Hopefully blue or gaby will be back here to give you more information.

But this is what I know

The LLMD doesn’t administer. You get the bees and do the stings yourself - hopefully a spouse or friend will help.
You can also get the injections but I believe you do them yourself.

No prescription required.

I posted a link to the bvt thread - take a look. Your answers may be in there
Posted 5/2/2018 2:31 PM (GMT -5)
Anybody can adminster live bees . They are cheaper ...i go into venex and the use of injectable in the threads here and on lymenet .
M.simics ,one of 2 world wide venom collectors, will only sell to a dom ,np ,pa or md for saftey reasons he is in canada at apitronic services . Your practitioner can call him....its about 200 stings in a bottle and needs to be mixed with something . I did my own injections as llmd charges 50 per and you need a lot . Its more tolerable but some of the constitutants seemed lacking . The anti inflammtory is the great part of relief . So venex was pricey too plus procaine and needles plus refrigerating with bees i just need twezers and honey . Was great for travel but not cost effective for me . Also i enjoy having hives .and planting flowers .There may be a apitheripist in your area and most have epi and benadryl handy to do test sting . Its a leap of faith but was way more frightened to inject rocephin into my heart than sting myself ...i did both

Thanks girlie ...hey do you know if pirouette started her bvt?

Btw bees give courage, have you seen a bee defend its home . FIERCE ..Once you handle them, face death 3x a week and choose life . Regular people problems seem small . Remember the only cure for fear, is courage !

Post Edited (bluelyme) : 5/2/2018 1:44:09 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 5/2/2018 8:02 PM (GMT -5)
wow!

glad to hear it
Posted 5/2/2018 8:46 PM (GMT -5)
thumbs up for Gabybee's and here's to bvt !
Posted 5/2/2018 8:50 PM (GMT -5)
blue - re: Pirouette. The last time we emailed (a couple months ago) - she wasn't doing the bvt.


Not sure now though.
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