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Posted 5/7/2018 3:35 PM (GMT -5)

dbwilco said...
he is more knowledgable than most llmds, partly because he has taken literally all the drugs for bart (including ivs)...he tends to feel that repeat pulses of tetracycline, together with other drugs can knock bart down without the risk of some of the harder drugs...but yes he DOES use them sometimes, just not usually at first...but he is VERY open to modifying protocols...in one of his videos, dana parish, a patient and now business partner mentions that Dr P offered rifampin to her but she declined based on potential side effects

my attitude has been, if nothing really kills this stuff forever, why take the riskier drugs? tetra def hits bart for me, in terms of herxing when taking it (gastritis, shins, red eyes)...but then again i still have it...so...

thanks, i am new to this but rifampin or rifabutin seem standard for the course. it sounds like a lot of his patients do get better with the slow and steady approach
Posted 5/7/2018 3:55 PM (GMT -5)

sierraDon said...


thanks, i am new to this but rifampin or rifabutin seem standard for the course. it sounds like a lot of his patients do get better with the slow and steady approach

Yup - Rifampin/Rifabutin is the standard bart Treatment.
Posted 5/7/2018 6:27 PM (GMT -5)
in this thread regarding Dr P, he uses the antibiotic tetracycline.
Posted 5/7/2018 11:10 PM (GMT -5)

OriolCarol said...
Tetracycline is effective against bart? When you say tetra do you refer at group of abx orque specific abx tetracycline?

all tetracyclines are good for bart but you need an extra antibiotic. you never treat bart with just one. you can add rifampin/rifabutin or a fluoroqinolone
Posted 5/7/2018 11:15 PM (GMT -5)

mpost said...

OriolCarol said...
Tetracycline is effective against bart? When you say tetra do you refer at group of abx orque specific abx tetracycline?

all tetracyclines are good for bart but you need an extra antibiotic. you never treat bart with just one. you can add rifampin/rifabutin or a fluoroqinolone

I think she is already on rifampin or rifabutin.
Posted 5/8/2018 6:59 AM (GMT -5)
can someone comment the other antibiotics Dr P uses with his combo for Bartonella, curious what they are since his first line of treatment doesn't include rifabutin/rifampin. thanks
Posted 5/8/2018 1:59 PM (GMT -5)
From what I have read and heard he often uses for Bart:

Tetracycline, zithromax, biaxin, liposomal oil of oregano, liposomal artemisinin as standard bart treatments.

Pulsing two weeks on two weeks off. With monolaurin sometimes.
Posted 5/8/2018 2:37 PM (GMT -5)
the hardest i have herxed was on diflucan, tetra, liposomal oil oregano and mepron...and tetra and mepron shouldnt be given together bc it reduces meprons effectiveness...it sure hit something though! this was after mepron and zith didnt do much. he believes it was hitting bart bc my lymph nodes all swelled up and my bart symptoms all flared....does that treat bart? it shouldnt....but....until they find a cure NO one knows...alot of bart could be babs and vice versa


and yes, tetra is what he uses... says in the quantities you could give it 1500 mg a day compared to mino, it actually gets into brain better. Dr Donta (retired and esteemed) used tetra as well, but alot of dr prefer mino for some reason... and diflucan is a player in alot of his protocols, more bc thinks it slows the liver (says a good thing)...there is the german dr who used it for lyme...to me it seems to supercharge meds as well as being anti-fungal....

best caring doctor ive ever had...got me well first time, here is hoping this time too (got re-bit w babs)
Posted 5/8/2018 4:23 PM (GMT -5)
I’m also on Tetra (Dr. P) and I do get vertigo, dizziness, head pressure, etc. as part of my normal symptoms and all of my symptoms get worse during my second week pulse. I know for me it’s a herx. It can be hard to differentiate between a herx or adverse reaction when we start something new.
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