Fellow memebers who use buhners bartonella protocol or other herbal protocols, hows it going?

Just wondering how all who are using Stephen buhners bartonella herbs are doing so far?I know there were a couple using his protocols so I hope to hear from you! I think it should be nice sharing experiences and maybe giving eachother some hope.

oh alsooo for you or anyone else with bartonella.

does anyone else other than me have the tiger print bartonella rash? mine has not gone away at all..

I'm on Buhner's protocols for multiple infections. I started in June of last year. I am not doing so well. I was so hoping that I would gradually and steadily improve symptom-wise and be able to steadily increase doses. That has not been the case for me.

I have made little progress. The longest "good stretches" I've had only lasted 2 weeks, and they were not symptom free. I know others have done much better than me.

I was sick for about 7 years before starting treatment. The only prior treatment I had was 7 days of minocycline in Jan of last year. I was initially diagnosed with CIRS from mold exposure. I also had a mouthful of old mercury amalgam fillings, which I'm almost done replacing. The coinfections I got positive tests on are ehrlichia, mycoplasma pneumonia, chlamydia pneumonia, and some viruses. I do not know if I have candida, parasites, SIBO, or leaky gut. The stool and blood tests I've had were negative, but I've had IBS-C or recalcitrant constipation since Oct 2015. I got a breakthrough in April this year after taking Candicid Forte for a month. I got sick with diarrhea and vomiting and expelled some stringy stuff that may have been candida.

Even with all that, I still have not adhered to a clean diet. I am in a less moldy but not mold free house. I have continued to be under stress and less than ideal life circumstances for the last 2 years. I am a middle-aged women in menopausal transition. All of these things, I am sure, combine to work against me.

We are all different in ways we can identify such as those I listed, and in ways we don't know (genetics, genomics, yet unidentified toxic loads and pathogens, nutritional deficiences, etc).

If I recall, you just started Buhner's recently. I'd give it an honest try for 6 mths to a year before switching to another protocol unless there's a really good reason to switch. That's my opinion.

WalkingbyFaith, don't give up or feel discouraged. I've been at it since 2013 and yet here I am still fighting this thing. If there are two things that I have learned in all of these years is that 1) everyone heals differently and 2) it takes a while to heal, so take your time and do your best.

I've had my ups and downs with Bartonella, Lyme and other bugs. Back in 2013 I felt like I was weeks from dying. Then slowly I began to feel better. Then I got worse and slowly began to feel better. In the last few years I have been doing great for the most part. Anywhere from 80 to 90% better. I'll have a few relapses every other week or so, but overall, it does get better as long as you don't give up and stay on course.

Stress can knock you down and bring back symptoms like nothing else. Since March of this year I have been struggling to get back on my feet because stress brought me back to square one. But slowly, I am getting better again.

I agree with Opugirl that Japanese Knotweed and houttuyunia are very good to treat Bartonella. Sida Acuta is another one.

For herbs, I am currently using Japanese Knotweed, houttuyunia, CSA (Cryptolepis, Sida Acuta and Alchornea) Sida Acuta (again), Andrographis, Chinese Skullcap, and Cats Claw.

Some of the Abx that I am using (and have used) for Bartonella are Rifampin, Doxycycline, Minocycline, Clarithromycin, and Bactrim.

Post Edited (Healing98) : 7/6/2018 8:39:11 PM (GMT-6)

I’m on month 5 on Cowden protocol. I improved after my initial 6 week Doxy/Tini cycle but knew I still had a long way to go. I choose Cowden mainly due to me not having the Brain to manage a protocol myself.

It’s got me to a point where I’m pretty functional. Overall it’s a welll planned protocol with plenty of bug killers & detox.

I’m taking a break soon and going on a script parasite protocol. After I plan to continue Cowden.

I can see why many people build there own with Buhner guidelines especially to ramp up when your ready.

I read recently that Lymies can sometimes function professionally but can’t manage things at home.

That spot on got me.

I also believe that when your dealing with parasites, you need a defined protocol you can stick with.

IMHO those critters truly play with your mind and impare your judgement when it comes to treatment.

I've been on my own version of Buhner's bartonella protocol for a year or two, and I've been doing really well. I think I'm pretty much back to my pre-Lyme state of health (which definitely isn't close to 100%), and I'm really hoping that I can get rid of the bartonella completely.

I still have some symptoms that I think may be parasite-related, and I'm trying to figure out whether I should go the herbal or the prescription route. I did an herbal cleanse once already, and it didn't do I much as I hoped it would.

I've done well on sida, houttuynia, JK, andrographis, and cat's claw, with the addition of oregano and clove oil. I can't take several parts of the protocol like EGCG due to migraines. My LLMD is managing my hormones (DHEA, T3) and monitoring blood levels of vitamins and minerals. My treatment had been stalled for months due to FT3 being in the lower 3rd of the range, I wouldn't have been able to correct that myself.