Migrating muscle pain

Has anyone else experienced this?

For months it's been my shoulders and neck. The muscles are always stiff when I wake up. When I stretch it's like deboning a chicken. It pulls stuff that shouldn't be pulled. Constant pain. Now it's like my shoulders don't feel as bad, but my abdominal muscles have that problem. I stretch in the morning and it's pulling on stuff and causing pain. There is constant soreness and it's scary because my abdomen is where all those vital organs are.

I'm not saying the pain moved, but it could have. I don't really know what's going on. Rest makes symptoms better. But once I wake up, I always have to stretch because everything feels tight.

Yeppers! Same here... in the past it was concentrated in shoulders, but now its lower legs. But still always the super tight muscles everywhere EVERY morning. I must constantly move throughout the day, although I cannot staybon my feet for too long. I like biking but then my piriformis/sciatica flares up. Massage therapy does NOT help> massage increases inflammtion as all the toxins are released. Ive tried evrything!

But when I stretch the muscles that hurt, it literally feels like I'm tearing up my organs or doing some damage to my body. I don't want to stretch hurt muscles. I have had trigger point therapy done and it didn't do anything but make it worse for a few days, then back to the normal level of pain/tightness.

Yep, I had to endure a lot of pain to get better. If you do this yourself, it saves money and you can repeat daily. A few times a week is not enough in my case.

Deliberately made myself black and blue in some areas. Then applied magnesium and Arnica montana gel and stretched these areas while it healed. This is termed "muscle restructuring". Limited online info, but its there.

No one therapist helped me, I put together a plan from bits and pieces of what other numerous therapists used. It got me to this point, away from near couching 24/7.

yes, this was more effective after my ABX "tour". not as much help before.

my story is complicated.

I had what seemed like permanent muscle damage all over for years and could no longer take part in physical activities, now its just concentrated areas after mostly rigorous physical activity and more like stubborn stiff tendons than muscle - thats part of my 10% in my signature.. Tendons take a long time to get better- no blood flow to them. I can get out of bad way easier and sleep better.

Ill take what left any day over the way I was. My upper body strength doubled in one year, even though i'm in early 50's.

I also had multiple hi speed sports impact injures that didnt heal correctly in the past. Im guessing lyme contributed to their improper healing decades ago.

Therapist (many) did near nothing for my shoulders, I corrected much myself of it in two years. Even therapists admitted that long time shoulder injuries dont always heal 100% from their methods.

What I did might sound pretty aggressive, but it helped me tremendously. I took baby steps working / testing certain areas first. I did have a past Olympic team chiropractor help me with this aggressive approach at one point and I took it from there to other body areas.

I need to add that I also gradually strength trained the areas I was loosening up - am got a little guidance there trying isolate certain muscles. Stuck muscles with limited range of motion are weak.

Now I can lift weights, mnt bike, road bike, paddle a canoe, ski usually with no pain. If I do none of that stuff, my pain level is probably normal for early 50's, as many my age gave up doing that stuff years ago. I cant live a "couch" life - I like to keep moving.To live is to move.

But the thing is, the more you heal from lyme, the more COMPLETE healing you want. Now wishing for 100% seems a lot better than 90%, but with my autoimmune issues (which make pain too), 100% might not be possible. I will find out, but time is not on my side either. How many past upper level athletes have no pain in their 50's?

I don't imagine this would/should be as complicated to correct for others.

astroman said...
my story is complicated.

I had what seemed like permanent muscle damage all over for years and could no longer take part in physical activities, now its just concentrated areas after mostly rigorous physical activity and more like stubborn stiff tendons than muscle - thats part of my 10% in my signature.. Tendons take a long time to get better- no blood flow to them. I can get out of bad way easier and sleep better.

Ill take what left any day over the way I was. My upper body strength doubled in one year, even though i'm in early 50's.

I also had multiple hi speed sports impact injures that didnt heal correctly in the past. Im guessing lyme contributed to their improper healing decades ago.

Therapist (many) did near nothing for my shoulders, I corrected much myself of it in two years. Even therapists admitted that long time shoulder injuries dont always heal 100% from their methods.

What I did might sound pretty aggressive, but it helped me tremendously. I took baby steps working / testing certain areas first. I did have a past Olympic team chiropractor help me with this aggressive approach at one point and I took it from there to other body areas.

I need to add that I also gradually strength trained the areas I was loosening up - am got a little guidance there trying isolate certain muscles. Stuck muscles with limited range of motion are weak.

Now I can lift weights, mnt bike, road bike, paddle a canoe, ski usually with no pain. If I do none of that stuff, my pain level is probably normal for early 50's, as many my age gave up doing that stuff years ago. I cant live a "couch" life - I like to keep moving.To live is to move.

But the thing is, the more you heal from lyme, the more COMPLETE healing you want. Now wishing for 100% seems a lot better than 90%, but with my autoimmune issues (which make pain too), 100% might not be possible. I will find out, but time is not on my side either. How many past upper level athletes have no pain in their 50's?

I don't imagine this would/should be as complicated to correct for others.

Thank you for the clarity and backstory. I understand a little better now. Did you ever figure out what exactly was causing the muscle problems. Vitamin/mineral deficiencies due to chronic infection depleting the bodies mineral reserves? Or toxins being stored in the muscles unable to be released? I am about to start a really good detox program along with my lyme herbs.

mcspike said...
Id like to addto my previous post, as I forgot to mention Ive been using a new product called Therworx. Its magnesium mostly, but also has colloidal silver, grapeseed extract, & aloe. My left leg pain and left shoulder has been SO painful that Im alternating the Theraworx, a holistic pain creme, AND essential oils. Combine tjese essential oil then lightly massage in> roman chamomile, helichrysym, & atlas cederwood...wait 1hour then use lavendar, marjoram, & wintergreen essential oils....

Honestly the essential oils have been the only real muscle pain relief for me.

Do you think these were toxins trapped in the muscles and the massaging released the toxins to be eliminated? I'm wondering if this isn't just the body having nowhere to put the excess toxins so it places them in these areas. I'm not sure. Our body stores toxins that cannot be released at the moment in order to keep us safe from harm.

Magnesium glycinate studies have shown it to be the most absorbable magnessium. Matate is second, citrate third. I tried these too and mag asperate, mag glycinate from KAL wins. There is some newer type, I forget the name, which claims to be superior. Past posts on all this here.

Yes, seems to be a circulation issues at the cell level. Once I get warmed up in the gym, slowly, I feel realy pumped and good, painfree- from the circulation and oxygen.

I posted asked about ways to oxygenate, there were some supps that people mentioned which i have not tried yet.