Help with teeth and gums

Ever since I started TREATING Lyme (2 years ago) my teeth have gone downhill fast. My gums are red, swollen, they bleed when I eat, brush, and floss. In fact, I can no longer eat granola without tearing up my gums. Now they're starting to look dingy and are especially gross after I eat. I realize some of this is age, but it's out of control.

Some stats: 43 F, 7 months post stem cells at Infusio. I wore braces in my teens and my teeth are now moving back to the way they were when I was a kid. It's horrible.

My routine:

1. I brush 2-3 times a day with a soft bristle flossing brush. I've tried others. None seem to make a difference. I even tried an electric and water pik.
2. Every night I floss and use a gum scraper (gently) and then rinse with warm salt water (to deal with the bleeding).

I have tried not using toothpaste at all (just water), organic toothpaste (Toms, no flouride), organic brushing powder, baking soda, salt (probably too rough), and coconut oil - all over a period of time, not one after the other. I give each one a chance and my teeth just seem to be getting worse! I've even tried oil pulling.

It sounds like I'm doing a lot here, but this is all over time. I've even tried doing nothing. No matter what I do, they're still getting worse.

I eat a low to zero sugar diet. My daily treat is a coconut ice cream bar made with agave. Once a week I indulge in fancy french fries (not fast food). I also smoke. Now, I know what you're thinking about the smoking. I know. You have to understand, my teeth were in great shape before my Lyme journey started and they've TANKED in two years.

I may be too close to see clearly here. Can anyone offer some suggestions on what I'm doing wrong or can change. I was hoping the stem cells would improve my teeth and gums, but so far no dice.

Thanks!

I like Tea Tree oil for gum issues.

As Lapis stated - oil pulling is something you could try. Coconut oil is great - you can put a drop of Tee Tree oil in the CO.

Make sure you spit it out in the garbage though...it can solidify and clog the sink.

Ever since I started getting symptoms 2 years ago I have also had a ton of mouth issues. Gums sore and thinning. I don't have any metal fillings and did not have braces. My teeth have shifted alot in the past 2 years and I get plaque buildup fast now.

A couple of things I have found that help are a Ultra Sensitive Toothbrush called Caress, I use one for enamel and another for the gums. You can buy online at Brush Buddies. I also use a toothpaste and rinse called Closys. It is for sensitive oral health and is alcohol, gluten and sulfate free.

You may consider seeing a biological dds. Jaw infections will prevent one from healing lyme. Many docs start by cleaning out the jaw. good luck

Mind Body Spirit,

Did the NAC knock down the plaque?

Reducing the amount of things you take is a very good strategy to eliminate possibilities of interactions.

Who knows, there could be something both creating biofilms and something reducing it, canceling it out.

I know that when I was taking L-gutamine, I would feel better then worse. But I didn't put together that the glutamine was FEEDING the lyme, so I kept increasing the dosages. I have no stopped taking all amino-acids whatsoever that have a relationship with feeding lyme -- BCAA, L-Argentine (which I really liked), and L-Glutamine. NAC and Melatonin I believe are an aminio acids. They do not appear to cause the lyme to grow, but maybe other people have different strains of lyme that act differently or perhaps their body breaks down supplmenets differently and the lyme is able to exploit these pathways.

getting down the the minimum effective protocol is a great idea. The process of elimination, or completely stopping, or getting back to a baseline, and the incrementally adding one herb at a time and being very observant is key to figuring out what is going on. It can be complex because it can take several days or weeks for a supplement to leave the system. Worse, the supplement can can cause a secondary reaction that has nothing to do with the intended reaction. So it could take 10-14 days before the side effect or interaction goes away. That, and stuff canceling each other out. There's some luck involved. But researching half lives, method of actions, and using your gut feeling (literally!) is key.
Taking everything at once, you won't know which specific supplement works. Maybe there is a dual-action between two or three. Somehow, right now, taking my combination works. I am trying to drill down into what it is, but my gut feeling is Ivermectin-Stevia-Teasel-CatClaw with IV abx

I think we may have different strains of lyme, or different co-infections, or different pathways/breakdowns, or different purity or grades of supplements/medicines -- but somehow, we both have stumbled upon an effective solution -- which may or may not translate to working to other people. Only an experienced LLND/LLMD with hundreds of cases (or resources to reach out to other LL-ND/MD) might be able to know what works for who at what stage. I'm just blessed this combination works for me -- right now (I fully expect it to stop working and already planning to speak with my LLND for whats next)

please be careful with other drugs and combinding them. Again, LLND/LLMD. I don't know anything about them, but I thought at one point flagyl had an interaction with ivermectin when you said it. I googled it and there wasn't any interaction with ivermectin, so I might have had a "brainfart" -- SO I was WRONG and apparently it is OK. I cant remember what "f-something" and ivermectin interaction there was. I spent two or three hours researching interactions and didn't take notes about a month ago. I was told at one point that Ivermectin is really bad for you, so I am overly cautious, but then when I actually looked into it -- it is the exact opposite. I was lucky my LLND gave me a prescription.