Anyone try CBD oil?

I know it has some neuroinflammatory benefits so i figured it can't hurt to try. I'm not expecting a miracle cure but hey, it's better than trying nothing. I just don't know if there are certain brands that are legit and others that are crap, or maybe something else im unaware of.

Anyone have any experience here?

How long did you take it?

darn. Maybe not worth the cost then

Psilociraptor said...
Did nothing for me either. Maybe have actually made me a tad worse. Not bad, but like a little herxy maybe

I actually felt worse on it too - but I also got a bad cat bite a few months earlier - and could have got another dose of bart (cat died after he bit me of undiagnosed heart disease)

Very helpful adjunct for anxiety, stress, sleep for me but pricy, effective dose about 200-400 mg

I find it very helpful but not "enough" for sleep alone, but highly recommend

Doors12

The product I bought was CBD from organic hemp. It was naturally almost 'nil' thc. so no Dr.'s note needed for it.


It will all be legal within a couple months here anyway.


I was hoping it would work...as there were some testimonies on retired LLMD EM's facebook page of people having success with it.
This was when he and Eva Sapi were doing their research on it.

Girlie said...
The product I bought was CBD from organic hemp. It was naturally almost 'nil' thc. so no Dr.'s note needed for it.

It will all be legal within a couple months here anyway.

I was hoping it would work...as there were some testimonies on retired LLMD EM's facebook page of people having success with it.
This was when he and Eva Sapi were doing their research on it.

Don't give up on Hemp or Cannabis Girlie, I'm telling ya it works.

I swear by the stuff, if you've had Chronic Lyme Disease so long, it might be a great way to prevent longterm damage that can lead into something like an autoimmune disease like Parkinsons, hence Michael J Fox. Very similar to Turmeric!

HBO Real Sports did a special on it and the Doctor from Israel said it showed that the cannibinoids can heal damaged mice's brains.
/youtu.be/AccREj2l7c4?t=11m17s

That's great to here the real thing will be legal in a few months. I recommend buying a more potent form from the dispensary, rather than online.

Organic can be a plus, but a minor one I think, you're looking for a brand that has a long proven track record, a lot of reviews, I mean a lot of reviews.

But hey, I'm not going to knock some of the new CBD oil companies sprouting up, there's probably some good ones that still work well, including that one you mentioned.

If you want the real stuff, try Rick Simpson Oil, that will bring down your pain incredibly. Problem is, the dominant Indica strain can make you too sleepy. However, there are some dispensaries that are carrying hybrd RSO, even Sativa RSO, where you won't get so high and tired.

And a great way, is to buy both RSO and CBD oil, take CBD oil during the day, and RSO at night.

If you can find a marijuana dispensary that carries a CBD oil that's made from a dominant CBD cannabis plant, that's the one you're gonna want, hands down. It shouldn't get your high or make you fatigue, if it gets you high, just keep taking it as the high symptoms will wear off.

There's a new strain of marijuana plant that a dispensary owners went over to Africa to get, it has this THCv cannibinoid in it, and it supposed to be beneficial for patients with diabetes. Sadly, one of the dispensary owners that went over to Africa to find the plant, contracted Malaria and died.
/youtu.be/PwciNb-BZIk

Post Edited (Charlie55) : 9/11/2018 1:10:23 AM (GMT-6)

Charlie55 said...

The Dude Abides said...


One person stated he's spoken to over a dozen people who have tried CBD Oil for various health-related issues. Not a single person noted any difference.

Another person stated they tried CBD Oil with their child, in hopes of reducing/resolving seizures. Unfortunately, it did not work.

People and kids with epilepsy, if they're going to use a CBD oil, THC has to be present, along with terpenes and other cannabinoids in order for it to work.

Originally the Stanley Brothers high CBD oil they were using, was created form a high CBD Marijuana plant. Now from what I remember, I think they interpret a hemp plant with that same high CBD Marijuana plant. They have to watch the THC rating in order to keep it legal online.

A lot of seizure patients aren't having the same benefit, as they did with the "original" Charlottes Web plant that uses for people with epilepsy.

Just like people with Parkinsons, you're gonna want to go with a CBD oil tincture from a dispensary, a more potent form, rather than just using the CBD oil that's derrived from Hemp and being sold online.

The Dude Abides said...


Finally, another person stated their spouse tried CBD Oil for chronic pain. It didn't help. HOWEVER, medical marijuana is legal in their state and the person is now enrolled in the program and vapes marijuana. The vaping HAS been helpful for the pain. The attending physician stated the various cannabinoids in marijuana work synergistically and that's why isolated CBD is ineffective for most people.

I can assure, that I have tried some CBD oils that work and some that do not work at all. Reason being, these companies aren't including the terpenes, along with the other cannabinoids in the oil, so it gets the full synergistic effect.

I've tried the CW Hemp version being sold online by the Stanley Brothers, it worked instantly for bringing down inflammation and joint paint for me. I no longer have to use it, because I no longer have pain I once had, the Stevia and Persister cell drug protocol Dr. H and Dr. J recommends, helped my remaining sciatica and leftover arthritis.

I know CW Hemp is a good company for online CBD oil, along with Elixinol. These companies stated how they keep terpenes and multiple forms of cannabinoids in their oil.

I tried Plus CBD Oil, supposedly the Market Leader for CBD Sales, that's what their website said. The oil just tasted like rope and did absolutely nothing for me. Maybe they changed their extraction process and their ingredients, maybe it's better, but that brand didn't do one thing for me.

Just like lyme literate physicians, we live in an imperfect world, and not all things are created the same. Just because you haven't had success with antibiotics with one LLMD, doesn't mean you shouldn't try another. That goes the same for CBD oil, or Hemp oil, which some companies call it now. At first I think the Stanley brothers called their brand cbd oil something, but now it's called CW hemp, reason being I suspect, because they found out they must include many forms of the plant to keep it work well. CBD on it's own, won't work as well.

Thanks, Charlie. I'll pass-along your comments and encourage folks to look for brands that have all the compounds you noted.

For the couple with the epileptic child, the parents tried the Charlotte's Web CBD Oil from CW Hemp. I just looked at the CW Hemp website and it shows that the Charlotte's Web product includes Flavonoids, Over 80 Cannabinoids, Terpenes, and Phytocannabinoids. Only at the bottom of the page, way below all the product information, is THC mentioned. It reads:

"This product is tested by high performance liquid chromatography to ensure it contains no more than 13 parts per million tetrahydrocannabinol (THC). If you are subject to testing for THC please see www.cwhemp.com/testing for more information prior to using this product."

So, I'm not sure if that's enough. Presumably it is, given this is the Charlotte's Web product and the history behind it (Charlotte Figi - the little girl with seizures).

Cannabis oil with THC (not hemp-derived CBD oil) gives me the strongest herx of any herbal. I'm currently taking 30-40 mg twice a day, after working up from smaller doses. My first dose of >30 mg caused migrating muscle cramps and twitches, symptoms which I think are mostly bart.

cannabis oil w/ thc included, also has given me the biggest herbal herx i have gotten

it gets right into cns, where alot of our symptoms lie...it regulated my pots

cbd from hemp is not as good as from the flower, and its actually the thc that has anti bacterial,fungal and viral effects....

must ingest it, not just smoke/vape it to get medicinal effect

it modulates immune system, so we are not as symptomatic...

i had great luck with it (w/ thc-cbd, 1 to 1 or even higher thc)...unfortunately i developed an allergy to it, with my mcas...disappointing as it WAS helping me day to day with sleep, aches, and anxiety

there is a facebook page with over 6000 users. cannabis for lyme...most of them abx failures, many who had picc lines....does it cure it? no, as soon as they stop symptoms return- i have dealt with this....after a month of usage, and feeling better on it, i stopped and aches have returned and then some

also i think it hits bart...wish they could do research with it....synergistically, the whole plant cures mrsa...

Post Edited (dbwilco) : 9/11/2018 1:15:26 PM (GMT-6)

Thanks for all the responses. I'm a little nervous about taking something with higher THC because i already have so many psych symptoms. Particularly the derealization/depersonalization which i feel THC would make worse. If there is a valid reason to believe it may help, though, I'll go forward with it

Hi I grow CBD hemp and have a field of it almost ready to harvest.

It did not work for me. The regular dosage, did nothing. When I took an extremely large dosage, as recommended by the "CBD people" (very enthusiastic people who claim it cures EVERYTHING..FF'n thing), it gave me nightmares and cold sweat. They told me that I "needed to keep doing it until it goes away"
But the nightmares were literally lucifer interdimensional portals.

Now another farmer who is more into CBD then me (his field is 200+ acres) swears by it for his lyme. But he isn't treating his lyme. He is only treating his symptoms and functions well enought he doesn't have time to see a LLMD (you work 24/7 as a farmer). He claims it helps with his sleep. To me, it kept me up all night.

Also for me (I am male) it absolutely killed my libido, in a very bad way. It might have an opposite effect on women, but basically it acts like an estrogen. It is stronger then soy in this area.

So it doesn't work for me, but it works for another guy enough he doesn't treat his lyme -- but he is hurting.

The THC version of CBD can actually be very very harmful for you. It makes me incredible sick. What the THC version does is impair your immune system. I believe long term use of THC in somebody that is chronically ill can impair the immune system and cause cancer because the immune system is unable to remove bad cells. If you look at the history of THC growers, most of them are dead of young age due to cancer. Yes it might cure cancer once you get it, but if you don't have it, it might cause it in my opinion.

Also I am absolutely fatigued from hearing about how "CBD cures everything" - type in the google any sympton and CBD and it will cure it -- then type in the opposite, and it will also cause it. There's so much disinformation, you can't tell. There is definitely something going on with CBD and I believe it has a huge positive impact on peoples health, but until we can get the signal/noise ratio down and the legal questions for proper research, I would try it very carefully: if it doesn't work, stop taking it, don't keep taking it because of pressure from the CBD people.

It seems like most people use it for pain but that isn't an issue for me. It's really the brain inflammation and psych symptoms