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Posted 4/6/2019 8:00 PM (GMT -5)
Hi all,

I am contemplating BVT and would like to know if anyone here has done bvt with dried bee venom? If so what was your experience like? For those with neurological issues, did BVT help reduce and or eliminate those symptoms? I am also wondering if there are any recommendations as to where to purchase from a trusted source in the states? I have seen several sites online that offer dried bee venom but they are located overseas. Thanks in advance for any ideas.
Posted 4/6/2019 9:03 PM (GMT -5)
well i can tell what i know. as of a few years ago there were only a few apirarys collecting venom. m. simic has a collector electrical shock device that is placed on a hive that i imagine causes them to convulsed enough to spurt venom on to a glass plate then dryed and collected . the was his in canada one in turkey and the rest in china. things to consider ellie lobel does not advocate injectable venom because of collection method . so then when i did try venex 20 which was mixed ready be diluted with sterile water and or procaine mathing was hard with lyme fog . is every country's standards on par to the canadian ? are you ok with losing some properties of the venom and doing injections ?
Posted 4/7/2019 5:44 AM (GMT -5)
Thanks Blue. would you happen to know if the dried venom is sterile? I thought I had read this is the case but could be mistaken. Would you happen to know if there is a risk for acquiring addtional infections directly from the bees? Just trying to make an informed decision before moving forward.
Posted 4/7/2019 11:04 AM (GMT -5)
thats the thing elle doesn't even trust the canadian standards claiming anything airborne on the plate will be mixed in to injection solution. i read about the bee viruses and looked up a case of bartonella in the guts of bees however my teacher assured me that as the venom come out of the sac its sterile . what happens afterthat? how are the plates cleaned /stored ? are they handled with sterile gloves ?how long do they let dry? idk ,if live bees are not a option for you consider venex solution for injection . its been tested calculated tried. dryed venom is great for ingestion (hpylori) and face cream. without knowing itll be russian roulette if you shoot reconstituted venom imho

Post Edited (bluelyme) : 4/7/2019 10:08:17 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 4/7/2019 7:56 PM (GMT -5)
Blue, It's good to hear that the venom is sterile. This was my main concern with traditional BVT. I figure I have enough to contend with current infections...don't need to add insult to injury. I contacted a gentleman this noon in British Columbia. Apparently he developed Venex and assisted Dr Klinghardt with understanding how to use with patients. Long story short, he will be retiring and as is the case will no longer be selling venex. He does have a connection with a doctor in Hungary who will be selling the vented solution. I am not sure if you know this but have you heard of people with neurological lyme improving with BVT? Just wondering if it would reduce and or eliminate the burning, tingling, numbness i experience. Thanks for your input.
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