Vein Pain Advice? - Edited

Hey all!

I hope that you are doing well!

I came here to ask if anyone has any advice for vein pain? Lately it’s been pretty bad in my lower legs and I can actually see the vein that is inflammed on my left leg. The pain is also right near the spider veins that have shown up just this year as I have not had them before.

I know the Bartonella from a case study has gotten to the point of causing vasculitis and similar issues I've been having. I know at some point it went into my shins as it was one of the main symptoms my doctor mentioned as a sign of Bartonella.

I am just wondering if anyone has ever had any issues like this and any advice for treating the pain? I am pretty desperate at this point as it's been the worst of my symptoms.

Thanks for all and God Bless!

Post Edited (Savedbygrace12) : 7/28/2019 1:50:19 AM (GMT-6)

Savedbygrace12 said...
Hey all!

I hope that you are doing well!

I came here to ask if anyone has any advice for vein pain? Lately it’s been pretty bad in my lower legs and I can actually see the vein that is inflammed on my left leg. The pain is also right near the spider veins that have shown up just this year as I have not had them before.

I know the Bartonella from a case study has gotten to the point of causing vasculitis and similar issues I've been having. I know at some point it went into my shins as it was one of the main symptoms my doctor mentioned as a sign of Bartonella.

I am just wondering if anyone has ever had any issues like this and any advice for treating the pain? I am pretty desperate at this point as it's been the worst of my symptoms.

Thanks for all and God Bless!

I don’t have an answer to your question, but you just answered mine. I also have Bart, and my veins (in arms and hands only) have been collapsing and scaring. They’re also painful weeks after the IV or draw. This has never happened to me before. I’m grateful you posted this, because I’ve been wondering what is happening to me. Good ole Bart! I hope someone has more insight into this.

Savedbygrace12 said...
My arms have hurt as well. Luckily though they haven’t had any spider veins or things show up on them (yet anyways).

I am happy I was at least able to answer your question. I’m just so over the pain with it lately and seeing this one in my leg that’s inflammed. I started a homeopathic for Bart and so I hope that helps reverse things. We’ll see and happy healing to you!

I’m with you. Over all the pain these diseases cause. My Dad and my sister suffer from varicose veins. Due to a blood clot, my sister had leg vein surgery. It’s helped her from getting another blood clot. Just out of curiosity, does anyone in your family have varicose veins? I just wondered if a family Hx of varicose veins plus Bart is contributing to your pain? Do you wear compression socks or stockings? They may help you. I wear them sometimes. Regardless, I pray the homeopathic remedy for Bart does it’s job! By the way, I noticed your favorite Bible verses. My favorite healing Bible verse is Mark 5:34. I actually have it tattooed on my right ribs. It gives me hope that someday that will be me getting blessed to be healed. God bless!

I feel sure I have bartonella, though I didn’t have a positive test. I have been treating with Buhner’s herbs for 2 years now.

I have not had the type vein issues you mentioned. I do have large, bulging veins on my hands, forearms, and inside of elbows - always have. My mom is somewhat veiny like that, too, but not as noticeable as me. My dad’s hands were like that too, at least after he got old. None of us have had pain or clots from varicose veins, though.

In the past months, I had pain in the inside of my elbows that felt like pain in my blood or blood vessels. I had soreness in the palms of my hands and soles of my feet that also felt like it was related to blood vessels. When I mentioned it to the doctor, she said it could be from toxins getting carried through the blood or something like that. If I recall correctly, it started when I was taking Mimosa pudica for parasites. I started herxing I guess and had new symptoms crop up. That was one of them. Babesia is a blood parasite, so it could have been related to that.

Buhner recommends red root or red sage for lymph. I wonder if that could help. He does say that red root is a coagulant so to use red sage instead if you have babesia or are on blood thinner.

I appreciate the scriptures, too. I have felt like the woman in that passage since I first got sick. She went to all kinds of doctors and spent all that she had and only continued to guess worse . . . . UNTIL she got healed. Praying we all get healed.

WalkingbyFaith said...
I feel sure I have bartonella, though I didn’t have a positive test. I have been treating with Buhner’s herbs for 2 years now.

I have not had the type vein issues you mentioned. I do have large, bulging veins on my hands, forearms, and inside of elbows - always have. My mom is somewhat veiny like that, too, but not as noticeable as me. My dad’s hands were like that too, at least after he got old. None of us have had pain or clots from varicose veins, though.

In the past months, I had pain in the inside of my elbows that felt like pain in my blood or blood vessels. I had soreness in the palms of my hands and soles of my feet that also felt like it was related to blood vessels. When I mentioned it to the doctor, she said it could be from toxins getting carried through the blood or something like that. If I recall correctly, it started when I was taking Mimosa pudica for parasites. I started herxing I guess and had new symptoms crop up. That was one of them. Babesia is a blood parasite, so it could have been related to that.

Buhner recommends red root or red sage for lymph. I wonder if that could help. He does say that red root is a coagulant so to use red sage instead if you have babesia or are on blood thinner.

I appreciate the scriptures, too. I have felt like the woman in that passage since I first got sick. She went to all kinds of doctors and spent all that she had and only continued to guess worse . . . . UNTIL she got healed. Praying we all get healed.

It sounds like you do have Bartonella. Bartonella is a hard one to test for. Always hiding in red blood cells, or the urinary tract or bone marrow. Galaxy labs is the gold standard, but I tested positive with DNA connexions. Testing positive isn’t so important though. You’re symptomatic, so I believe you have it. Soreness to the point of felling like the soles of your feet are on fire, is a common Bart symptom. I feel like you have healthy veins. People, no matter what sex you are, have bulging veins without issues. I’m not particularly veiny. I have my Mom’s veins, small and hard to infuse and get blood out of. I do believe the Bart is causing your vein pain, that Savedbygrace12 so excellently pointed out to all of us. I appreciate the mention of red root tincture again. I believe I’ll return to using that herb. That scriptures mean so much to me. If I had not returned to God early last year, I know I wouldn’t be alive today. Prayers going out to you as well to beat these evil diseases. ✝️🙏🏻

fwiw a client with bad bad vericose on legs is seeing it clear up after first year . i also got my vasculitis down with bvt and iv curcumin of course after proper bartonella treatment. it loves the vessel lining . i had livedo reticulutis body wide.

savedbygrace - BVT = Bee venom therapy.

Savedbygrace12 said...
Ah thank you. Yeah definitely don’t know a doctor who’d offer that either

Most BVT'ers are self-stinging....maybe all are....don't know of any practitioners.

According to bluelyme - its not that difficult - once you get the hang of it.

ya most aren't willing to endure the short pain for the long term relief of bvt .
the cbd may be helpful but if not try francenscence eo followed by dmso . it will take down inflammation almost as fast

topically on joints especially .
dmso is dimethylsulfaoxide originally a horse linament it will take what ever you put down on skin deep deep into tissues. its a lil caustic so dont wear for too long before washing . most alternative health store have it and its cheap ... oil of oregano in a hot milk bath will hit bartonella also

My fibrinogen levels have been higher since I got the Bartonella. I was in the 400’S last time I had them checked (year and a half ago). My biofilms have also been high as well. Have not had any concerns of DVT though. The doctor is more concerned about vasculitis. No clot issues that I know of in the family either.