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Post Edited (1000Daisies) : 5/14/2021 7:26:32 PM (GMT-6)

For many years my husband relied on melatonin every single night.

My friend told me about an herbal sleep remedy that has been working for her and many of her friends

I bought it for my husband thinking he’d have to wean off the melatonin - but it’s working really well -without the melatonin.

It’s called UDream.

(My husband has tried many of the sleep aids I tried several years ago when I was havjng sleep issues - and he didn’t find any of them to be this effective.)

https://www.udreamherbal.com

This is bad news for me too! I took their Kavinace without melatonin and it's gone too. I know it's addictive and there's been talk of banning it, but can't see that it's been banned yet. I purposely used sparingly so as not to get dependent.

Liftmode sells phenibut, but it's so cheap I wonder if it's safe or good.

I checked and no product of Amazon sells anything with phenibut that I can tell.

I've learned that phenibut hasn't been banned by FDA, but reclassified as a nootropic so can no longer be sold as a food supplement. https://smartdrugsmarts.com/faq/nootropics/

BTW I bought some and took one last night.

Hard to tell what the equivalent dose is since Neuroscience doesn't say how much is the phenibut in their proprietary formula.

Liftmode's is 300 mg in a single capsule and guessing youd have to take 3.

One didn't work for me.

Did your NP recommend it back when? My LLMD was selling it.

Sorry 1000Daisies, havent been here in a few days.

I only take the Liftmode phenibut when I'm experiencing lots of anxiety so shouldn't need to taper off.

2 of them work same as kavinace I think.

U-dream worked well for me first few times. Not so much now and I don't take very often.

Can we not private message anymore? Or a. I missing something?




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It seems I remember a few years ago a person could private message a member.

It wasn't a chat room I don't think. There was a symbol to the left of a post that allowed a PM.

Thanks for respondong--i won't be trying to figure out if it's there and I'm just missing something.🤔

Very sad another proven, useful supplement is being removed from the market. Seems every time a Lyme patient finds something that works and allows us to not be dependent on pharmaceutical companies it gets outlawed. Thanks again FDA for being the slave to big pharma instead of standing in the gap for the tax payers and patients that pay for your existence. You know you did not have to do this but your big pharma masters didn't like the competition. Even if Lunestra were the last sleep aid on earth, i will not take it, in protest to this decision made for the benefit of big pharma and to the detriment of the public that found Kavinace Ultra PM so helpful. FDA just another corrupt organization. The only reason they made this decision was because the big gorilla in their back pocket whined.

Rant over, now another person looking for a safe and effective alternative.