Can the food intolerances cause joint/shoulder pains

Yes.

I know of a young lady who was crippled with joint pain as a teenager. Found out she had gluten intolerance. Once she went completely gluten free, she got well.

saraeli said...
Echoing what WBF said. Inflammation caused by leaky gut and food intolerances can cause or exacerbate joint issues.

Two simple questions:
1. Why do you think that a leaky gut causes inflammation?
Answer: Because there are more bacteria in our body for our immune system to respond to. This does not have to be borrelia related.

2. Why do food intolerances exacerbate joint issues?
Answer: Because there are bacteria in the joints that aren't supposed to be there. Our immune system is dealing with the food intolerances and can't adequately clear the synovium of the joints. This does not have to be borrelia related.

It doesn't have to be borrelia related, but borrelia would allow less available immune response to prevent a leaky gut and borrelia (and other bacteria) would find safe harbor in the synovium of our joints.

I heard a physician say that eating saturated fat increases problems with a leaky gut. If this is correct, then eating high methionine foods (animal protein) would allow for more translocation of bacteria from our GI tract to our periphery (especially our joints.)

Eating a lot of eggs can increase immune response. Too much immune response is a bad thing. Too little immune response is a bad thing. We must find a happy medium.

Wow a lot of good advice, thanks !

For what it's worth, what helped to keep (suspected) inflammation joint and shoulder pains at bay for me is eating things that are easy to digest. Steamed fish, boiled meat, homemade stock, white rice. Only steamed veggies and above all not to much of em !

Anyway am gonna recover a bit, let thing settle down, then try a sort of easily digestible keto diet without the eggs & see. Will report back !

saraeli said...
Echoing what WBF said. Inflammation caused by leaky gut and food intolerances can cause or exacerbate joint issues.

Gallbladder illness also can cause shoulder pain if it's on your right side. People who lose weight quickly (as with keto diet) are prone to gallstones, so that might be an angle worth looking into, especially if you are having trouble with digestion!

Interesting, I defiantly have gallbladder issues, I hear more ppl with Lyme have this. The pain is on my left shoulder though. Gallbladder issues go away, weirdly, by not eating to much fiber. Only easy to digest steamed veggies, and not to much of them. As long as it's easy to digest am ok. (because less inflammatory ?)

Hi thanks !

Seeing a LL Doc in Brussels. Tested positive for Borrelia coriaceae, few months ago. Lucky first to catch the coriaceae strain in Belgium. He tod me it's Lyme none the less though.

He prescribed me 6 weeks of IV antibiotics. Not started yet, trying some things first, so I have something to fall back on should the treatment not work out / or symptoms come back.

Edit : Should mention, my problems started about 7-8 years ago, so must be late stage Lyme and not so much a problem not starting antibiotics immediately !

Post Edited (DrMaximum) : 10/20/2019 3:45:55 PM (GMT-6)

Food intolerances ---> inflammation ---> joint pain

Makes perfect sense

Inflammation is a bi***. It truly destroys everything.

Yes, and some foods can support a healthy inflammation response instead of contributing to inflammation. Turmeric is one example. However, supplement form absorbs better for this one.

I had the MRT test done. It showed reactions to things I never would have guessed and which I ate often

I think about that all the time, tested intolerant for chicken eggs and all diary.

What if I grew intolerant for something else over time

Eggs make me symptomatic and I had to stop eating them. Don't eat eggs. I use to love them too!

yes!!

immune reactions tend to affect joints. gluten sensitivity can give you joint pain and swelling

"Gluten sensitivity likely involves the innate immune system and symptoms may resemble those associated with coeliac disease, eg abdominal pain and diarrhoea, but with a prevalence of extraintestinal symptoms such as muscle cramps, leg numbness, bone or joint pain, weight loss, eczema/rashes, headaches, chronic fatigue, depression and other behavioural changes"

https://search.proquest.com/openview/4684dfb94497099e3765180a28545f61/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=1056335

You literally... take a test... lol. Or do an elimination diet. The Mediator Release (Response?) Test is the gold standard and there's ALCAT and some others.