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Posted 11/11/2019 9:44 AM (GMT -5)
Is anybody here dealing with constant puffiness under eyes and dark circles that never go away? Dark circles came when I got sick and never went away (along with pale/yellowish complexion). But puffiness is I would say more recent, or has been getting worse over time. It feels like the puffiness you get after you've been crying, slightly swollen bags under eyes, and I feel this has to do with lymph not moving. I am also worried about the kidneys and liver so I booked an appointment with my GP to get a blood test. Lately I have been getting all kinds of shooting pains in my throat, which also feels linked to lymph nodes.
I suffer from some kind of allergy, but this is not linked to it, it doesn't come with watery eyes etc, it's just there constantly.
I read in some old posts that stephania root helps with this, but I am really more worried about the actual cause of this. Anybody else dealing with the same ongoing problem?
Posted 11/11/2019 1:40 PM (GMT -5)
Good idea, getting a comprehensive metabolic panel of blood work done. Yellowish pallor makes me worry about liver or biliary tract issues.

The puffiness, throat/glad sensations, and dark circles make me think of thyroid and adrenal issues. Maybe your doctor can do some preliminary cortisol (salivary is best) and thyroid tests, too.

Good luck! I know it can be so frustrating to have more symptoms come up....
Posted 11/12/2019 10:06 AM (GMT -5)
I would get labs done.

The symptoms sound worrisome. What about mold exposure? I’m wondering if there’s still some exposure to something.

I used to get a lot of swelling around my eyelids and some redness. Most of this went away after moving from the first moldy house.
Posted 11/12/2019 2:21 PM (GMT -5)
Thank you for the replies, I really appreciate it. It is really discouraging to see no one can really relate. I thought other people might have similar problems.
I saw my GP today, she booked the blood test.
about the puffiness under eyes she said it's nothing to worry about, just gravity, and the way to deal with it is to lay down as it counteracts the gravity (?!). It cannot be just gravity if I actually feel the swelling. I feel it has to do with lymph, I don't know. Inflammation maybe. Hopefully not the kidneys.

I am definitely experiencing some re-exposure, and I actually think it is from outdoor molds, it is incredible how sensitive and reactive I've become. But I am not sure if it is directly linked to the puffiness. Maybe it's just the stress of chronic illness and inflammation.
I am hoping it's not adrenals, because I don't feel fatigue, the doctor said with adrenals not working properly I would have major fatigue, weight problems etc, she didn't wouldn't go there.

Post Edited (Zimica) : 11/12/2019 12:26:44 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 11/12/2019 5:28 PM (GMT -5)
Can I ask what meds/herbs you are taking?

It would surprise me if it involved kidneys, as yellowing of skin would have to be later stage kidney disease. Do you pee all the time or have frequent urination with bubbles in urine (heavy)? Swollen ankles? If you have been having blood tests in the last year, a bad comp panel should have and probably would have been mentioned by the doctor.

Could it be meds impacting liver? Or it could just be overall health with Lyme. I have had dark circles when I feel worse and, years ago, my skin looked pale or light yellow. It eventually went away and for a while I felt about 85% before had to have heart surgery (not Lyme related).

If it is meds or herbs causing it, seems stopping them might help. Liver enzyme test and creatinine/GFR/BUN tests can tell you about kidneys.

I push for blood tests to check it all every month, and my doctor does so. And while my kidney function has been off, it has been like that for 6 years and not gotten worse. Tests can ease your mind, except waiting for results does not smile. But better to get them done to put it behind you.
Posted 11/12/2019 9:07 PM (GMT -5)
Hi Zimica,

I can relate to feeling alone with certain symptoms at times. I think probably most of us can. I know it can get scary and lonely, but you're not alone and you'll get through this. Please let us know how your blood tests turn out.
Posted 11/13/2019 1:21 AM (GMT -5)
I dont have any advice but I had dark circles under my eyes since a few years before I got sick that never goes away.
When I got sick and had to go the hospital I got red all over my body and it swell up a lot below my eyes.
The trigger for my illness was living in mold.

Post Edited (Deep_sleep) : 11/13/2019 12:04:26 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 11/13/2019 3:59 AM (GMT -5)
I've had dark circles under my eyes ever since I was sick and always thought it was related to Vitamin K levels, but I really do not know what causes it.
Posted 11/13/2019 4:50 PM (GMT -5)
I had terrible dark circles and significant puffiness at my sickest. It still comes and goes depending on how I'm doing.
Never had the yellowing/discoloring. When I doing better, the dark circles and puffiness go away.
Posted 11/14/2019 7:17 AM (GMT -5)
Thank you all for chiming in, you are all great!

I don't know, I have this inflammation around my jaw, I don't know if it's linked to salivary glands, lymph nodes, there is always some pain there, and somehow I think this is linked to it. I am just guessing of course.
The ultrasound didn't show anything significant there, except that my salivary glands are pressing on my lymph nodes there because of my anatomy so that's why I feel "they are there" but it's normal". I don't know how normal this is, I didn't experience that before I got sick.

Running wild, if I am being honest to myself I am really not on any medications, or just cholestyramine, but then I had dark circles before starting CSM. I take A-FNG by Byron White for mould and yeast but quite inconsistently.

I did kidney and liver labs several times this year, everything was always ok, I will repeat the labs in a few weeks. I urinate frequently which is common with mold, but I didn't notice urine being bubbly. I do experience a lot of pelvic pain which is due to mcas I think..
I think my pale skin came from mold toxicity, it is poisoning after all.
Posted 11/14/2019 10:06 AM (GMT -5)
Honestly, I think mold is likely causing a lot of this either directly or indirectly.
Posted 11/14/2019 10:21 AM (GMT -5)
Zimica - Glad you have had labs. The results should be comforting. There are so many dealing with Lyme that have dark circles under eyes. I'm one of them. Just the stress alone can lead to things like that. I also think we become hyper-vigilant over any thing noticed after dealing with this for a while.
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