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Posted 1/3/2019 4:24 AM (GMT -5)
I was going to order it off Amazon - AllergyResearch Group has one but it’s in powder form.

I was hoping for capsules.

Also - anyone know a good starting dose?
Posted 1/3/2019 4:38 AM (GMT -5)
I'm not sure if these will be helpful, but have a look:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20642112
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9625322
Posted 1/3/2019 2:36 PM (GMT -5)
Thanks, Dude... Looking at the doses in those studies...I should be fine taking 1 tsp of the powder

Sandy - The J Clinic has suggested I try it .... so I'm thinking they've seen 'this' before and have experience with the LOLA. I may as well give it a go.
My brain is kinda important.... (my husband has asked me a few times when I'm ordering the LOLA and quite emphatically last night when I was complaining about my head pressure and brain issues that come and go)

Were you taking it for brain fog?


My next appt at the J clinic is March and I'm going to get a re-do on the ammonia test. This time I'm going to tell the lab tech not to tie the tourniquet on so tight. I read that can cause ammonia levels to rise (strange) and when I read that...I remembered that she had really cinched it on.

They don't/won't test for it here in Canada...not available....which I find strange.
Posted 1/3/2019 2:55 PM (GMT -5)

sandyfeet said...
I was taking it for sleep - it was quite good for that for some time so I assume that some of my sleep troubles might have been ammonia related. I'm now taking arginine which as I understand it is a precursor for ornithine so I dropped it for now.

Always strange to see the tests that we can and can't get here. Sigh.

re: lab tests. There were a handful that I had to go to LifeLabs for and then they sent them to other places. I had to pay a few hundred dollars for all that Dr. J wanted. One (can't remember which one) went to BC Women and Children's Hospital .

And then there were a handful that I couldn't get at all. So, then I paid Quest Labs in DC for those.

Lyme treatment is a $$$$$ endeavor. sad
Posted 1/4/2019 1:12 PM (GMT -5)
I could only find the LOLA in powder form and one brand: AllergyResearchGroup.


I have no idea how much to take....and with food or empty stomach.
Posted 1/5/2019 2:47 PM (GMT -5)
Girlie that's the LOLA that Dr. J prescribes I haven't seen it in any other form from that lab.

LOLA is prescribed by Dr. J for lowering your ammonia. I had high ammonia and i started taking this 1tsp 2x/day and it came down it definitely worked for me and I know others it worked for so worth a shot if your ammonia is high.
Posted 1/5/2019 2:54 PM (GMT -5)
Thanks Rikky.

I read somewhere that one of the ingredients (can’t remember if it’s the ornithine or aspartate) isn’t something you should take with kidney disease... and my kidney function is somewhat lower on the Persister protocol - so now I’m wondering if I even should take it.

Maybe I’ll try 1/2tsp twice a day to start.
Posted 5/6/2020 4:40 PM (GMT -5)
How do you take the powder form? Do you just mix in any amount of water?
Posted 5/6/2020 6:53 PM (GMT -5)

trekkar said...
How do you take the powder form? Do you just mix in any amount of water?


i put it in 1/2 glass of water, stirred it and drank it down.

It didn't really dissolve that well...but I don't think that matters.
Posted 5/7/2020 10:34 AM (GMT -5)
I take a scoop of the powder, put it directly in my mouth... then i put some water in my mouth and swish it around and swallow, followed by another glass worth of water.

This stuff was a game changer for me.

I'm not sure what worked better, the L-ornithine HCL or the L-ornithine L-Asperate.

I'm leaning towards the Ornithine HCL as it seems it clears my head right up. Also in the studies, the HCL had a higher clearance of brain ammonia.

This stuff was a game changer for me. I been having head pressure for YEARS up until I found out about this stuff a few weeks ago I figured I would give it a shot. My head pressure was gone, I'm still in disbelief. I'm thinking the whole time the head pressure was a build up of ammonia. Also helped with my air hunger a bit and breathing in general.

I also have been taking Taurine, which is also good for ammonia and mixing 1/2 tsp of activated charcoal and 1/2 tsp of zeolite before bed, which i think has been mopping up any excess ammonia.

I been doing this while taking disulfiram and so far, herxing has been near minimal. I think this whole time I been treating lyme for the last 2 years, the "herxes" have just been excess ammonia in my system. Probably the case for most of us.

Cheers.
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