Feeling ill? Bart?

Help.

I wake up with anxiety in morning. For three hours lay in bed.
Trying phosphetalserine at night in am.

Need help with that.

But now...
I feel sick for the rest of the day. Just sick. Good foesnr sound good. Want to hold head. Would stay in bed if I could. Feel awful.

What is wrong with me?

Is This Bart???

- I feel tingly in back and
-now a bit of vibrations in chest last night and this morning...
-and just feeling sick.


Also
- morning waking/ anxiety or something
- depressed
- head neck get misalinged often. ( but I have two kids who climb on me)


I need a doctor to help me. I can't do this anymore. I don't know what to do.

This ill feeling started AFTER I spoke to the women's dr and my natro.

The women's dr. Last time we spoke said maybe do SSri. But I'm depressed because I feel so awful all the time.

The natro prescribed cholerestyramine.

Neither of them know I've got this new sick feeling. It's been about five days.

I'm definitely not "sick".

It's a continuation of this Lyme mold thing. But I'm out of the mold house and have been for eight weeks. It just doesn't make sense, I know it tasked awhile but I feel like I'm missing something.


My natro who only deals with lyme patients is not treating me for Lyme or co infections.

She said we will look at Bart after mold.

Would a Bart test help?

Every summer I relocate and do usually feel a bit better.

I can't believe I'm actually feeling worse. I'm at the end . My mother is so stressed and confused bu this. I'm alone. My kids are watching more tv again today.

Sorry way too much info.
I'm desperate and maybe I'm missing something. Ever treated coinfections. Treated lyme with herbs for years.

Post Edited (Lightlife) : 7/24/2020 11:10:57 AM (GMT-6)

Hi Girlie. Thankyou for sticking this through with me and everyone else. I wish I could be as helpful.

Yes.
I've considered. MR was going to do him then last thing on website was " make sure not mold".

So I called my natro whom I had worked with. And she said my symptoms don't sound like lyme they screamed mold.

So I moved in with mother, did the ermi first,( came back extremely high) started charcoal glutathione( both of which I've taken before and never reacted strongly too, good or bad nothing noticeable)

I ordered the cholerestyramine and am staring at it now.

I've also considered Stephen Phillips. He doesn't deal with mold and doesn't do natural plus pharm. I wish he did. I like his character a lot.

I was thinking I'd do this mold treatment first then if no work try LLMD.

( I challenged abart and did react)

I think my nxt step is LLMD. I'm starting to bleed money between my natro and this women's doctor but this is unbearable.

Thanks again and again infinity.

When I mobilize toxins I feel awful. Glutathione, massage, binders, etc. Those things seem to overload my body fast and I just feel toxic.

I also feel generally sick when I am in front of a computer all day or exposed to a lot of EMFs.

Any degree of constipation - even just a few hours delay - makes me feel ill.

Iron supplements make me feel sick. The food-based kinds feel okay but still constipate me. (See above.)

Heat makes me feel sick.

Stress.

Downward dog and other yoga poses that send blood to my head or crank on my neck a lot.

I would hold off on cholestyramine and get the neck stuff sorted out. Your chiropractor might be over-correcting you. Sounds like you have a LOT of inflammation in your neck, which can affect everything. Go to someone else for chiro work or opt for craniosacral therapy. LLMDs have warned me that, while alignment is crucial, most chiropractic adjustment tends to be too violent a thing for bodies that are sensitive and already prone to inflammation. I definitely fall into that category, and I'm guessing you do as well.

My (non-Lyme) partner feels sick and woozy and weird and depressed and anxious and spacey and overall crappy when his chiropractor over-adjusts him or when he has gone a long time without adjustments. He has a lot of neck issues, too. The only things that help when that happens are CBD (topically and internally), ice packs, and ibuprofen.

I know of two phenomenal craniosacral therapists in the Boston area. One (in Porter Square in Somerville) is incredible with head stuff and the glymphatic system, and visits are something like $55 after insurance. Another (in Dedham) is awesome with the whole body, and she's $140. (I know it's a lot, but she's worth it.) Visits are an hour, in nice spaces, and both are lovely people. Let me know if you would like their contact information.

Sending you hugs and resilience and reassurance! It's such a cliche, but this too shall pass. It really will.

I can reiterate what sara said about toxins. Toxins make me feel sick like nothing else. I am having one of those days today. Took glutathione this morning after having forgotten it 2 days in a row. After a while started feeling a little woozy, fast heart rate, fatigued. Then slight nausea and headache started. Took four 81mg aspirin and a migraine pill over 2 hours ago and then an epsom salt bath and ate some food. Still feeling sick but not as bad. Feel like if I could have another BM, I would feel better.

This is after having a good day yesterday.

I see a chiro but don’t know much about all that. I just get normal chiro bone cracking adjustments. I would consider what sara said about the chiro stuff.

I’m really sorry you feel so awful and don’t know what to do. I’ve been there many times. Regarding the illness, it’s not either/or - Lyme or mold, bart or mold, Lyme or bart. It’s usually all of it.

Right now you’re feeling wretched and you’re probably very toxic. If you’re mother’s house is not moldy (you’re assuming but haven’t tested), then being in a cleaner environment may be inducing your body to release toxins that were stored internally while you were being exposed. In addition, you’re taking glutathione which helps your body to purge toxins.

I would try the cholestyramine. Some people do very well with while others feel horribly worse. The key is in the dosage and the frequency. Shoemaker (CIRS/mold doc) says take it 30 minutes before each meal (breakfast, lunch, dinner) and at bedtime. A full dose is 9 g of the regular stuff or 4 g of the pure compounded CSM.

I would suggest taking 1/16 of a dose once a day. SLOWLY increase from there. The reason I suggest that is when I took it, I started at 1/4 a dose and ramped up too fast. My symptoms went through the roof. What I noticed the last 2 days I took it was that about an hour after, I felt vaguely better, but around 3 hours after (before time for the next dose) I would start to feel a surge of symptoms and would want to take another dose before it was time.

Cholestyramine is a potent bile sequestrant. If you are full of toxins, it will cause a sort of toxic avalanche as you go along. As toxins are removed, more toxins are dislodged. Some people (like me) are VERY sensitive to the toxins and feel pain, burning, nausea, chemical sensitivities and more when exposed to toxins in the environment or internally.

Another thing is make sure you drink lots of clean water and keep your bowels moving daily. Natural Calm magnesium is what works for me. Castor oil packs and coffee enemas can help, too. Castor oil has made me feel sick before. Never tried coffee enemas.

Lastly, you might want to look into Buhner’s protocols or one of the other natural treatments, as they can help. You can start something along with mold detox, just don’t overdo it with antimicrobials.

Antifungals may help with mold stuff, too. Mold can colonize the gut.

I treated Bart with two different LL docs.

First go at it: Aug/15 for about a year.

Then after switching LL Docs, I treated Babesia and then treated Bart again - more aggressively for about 6 months and since then I’m on “Maintenance “ protocol which is targeting Bart - taking abx 4 days per month.