potsnpans said...
Errr.. that was a question...
I just thanked you for participating in this discussion. But you insist in asking something, wish i think is wrong to ask and others have already manifested that too.
You are seeing it the wrong way again and not taking in account what others already answered you. No member here, is obligated to do whatever you want them to do. It doesn't work that way. We are free to choose what to do and are not forced to do anything. But you seem to ignore that and insist and insist.
For example, I am not intimidating you, like your are doing, with "manipulative" questions, that if things turn out the opposite way you predict, like if
"safety is not affirmed" for the vaccines or even
suspended permanently, that you must admit that and post that later, or then you will be someone without ethics, am i?
I never done that and i will never do, because people are free to choose what they think. I told you tons of times, but you still don't get it. Giving information and warnings about
a subject, that involves different opinions and decisions, does not mean that your personal belief or decision about
that subject changed or must change based on other personal decisions and beliefs.
Even if others say: "safety is affirmed", it doesn't mean its science based, if it was, the vaccine should never be suspended in the first place. There will be doubts and more doubts about
the vaccines, that only can be answered in years, not in a few months, didn't you figure that out yet? What science is for you, could not be science at all for others, because many questions about
safety, remain to be answered. Thousands of doctors agree with that, others don't, that's fine. If you don't agree with this, that's fine too, but doing questions about
what behavior or actions, you expect others to have or follow, just because you want too, is trying to violate their free will by wanting them to behave or act in the way you expect them to act, according to your values and beliefs, but not on theirs..
You speak so many times about
manipulation, but you cannot not see yourself trying to manipulate a persons action, to post, by asking questions about
why i don't follow an action, you want me to? Based on only what you think is right?
Affirmations like "if you choose", for example. Did you get any phrase from me saying this, like "if you choose against" .. then "you wont" and "if you wont", this will be "somewhat deceptive"? Isn't that being manipulative? You tell me!
I always said in all my posts, "it up to each one to decide what to do". I didn't use words like "if you don't" then "you will that" and if "you don't" you will be deceptive and so on.
I am trying to ease this discussion, by thanking you for sharing your thoughts. So i am asking you to be moderate and reasonable, in the sense that condemning people with "ethics", if they don't follow the actions or behaviors you want them to follow or have, is wrong, in my opinion.
Posts like these will be posted again by others or by me, according to ones beliefs and thoughts, about
this or other subjects. You can do that too, if you want, but if you choose not to, that's fine too, i will not consider that deceptive or condemn your ethics for it. We post information, suggestions, warnings, beliefs, personal opinions and finally we agree with it or not, decide for our selfs what to do with all that. Everything that goes beyond that scope, always ends the same way it ends here.
Post Edited (isitlyme) : 3/16/2021 9:26:36 PM (GMT-6)