Vaccine influences our Lyme disease - More countries suspend AstraZeneca vaccinations

potsnpans said...
With complete information it doesn't look bad at all imo.

For me it looks very bad, because:

grade 3: 17.4% - > This is a huge number and really a great concern

If we apply that, to the ratio example you mentioned:

grade 3: severe reactions

6,960,000:40,000,000

6,960,000 - No wonder its concerning and a red flag.

Post Edited (isitlyme) : 3/17/2021 5:50:57 PM (GMT-6)

isitlyme said...
6,960,000 - No wonder its concerning and a red flag.

Yeah 17.4% is easy enough to understand but I guess the total % is lower than that.

Just looked again and realized that table was only for 18-64 years:

n = 1801 (17.4%), placebo n= 215 (2.1%)

For ≥65 years the numbers are:

n = 378 (10.8%), placebo n= 58 (1.6%)

Grade 3 generally means "prevented daily activity".

If opting for just one shot, the grade 3 systemic side effects are almost identical to the placebo numbers.

isitlyme said...

Girlie said...
But I’m wondering if at some point I will be pressured... or even “forced “ to take it - or lose my job.

Girlie, in what state do you live?

Check the local laws about it here, some states are preparing laws or already have them, to provide some protection for people or employees, who refuse to take vaccines. Check here:

https://www.huschblackwell.com/newsandinsights/50-state-update-on-pending-legislation-pertaining-to-employer-mandated-vaccinations

I’m in BC, Canada.
To date, we haven’t been hit as hard as most of the States... yet.

My husband likely had covid a year ago - when it was all just starting.
we both would be interested in checking for antibodies.

But, I thought I read that the antibodies don’t last long?
Is that true?

CWL: Was their study ever published? I could not find it.

Other positive news is that cases seem to be less severe in those who do get reinfected.

I think in cases where people can be proven to have already had covid, they should be getting put somewhere in the back of the line for vax.

As i thought, EMA and WHO, still support the use of Astrazena,
saying, as usual, or perhaps, business as usual?, that benefits outweight the risks, meaning, look, just some people died, of course we dont count the other thousands that died, because we believe it was coincidence, as we know that there is no evidence that vaccines caused the deaths. So you can take the vaccine, but there are risks of death, but you can "jump" to the vaccine for a "greater good", this "good" that we still dont know how "good" it will be the next 2 years after you took it. Just jump, but remember, after you jump, you made "our good" decision, if you die, there is nothing we can do for you anymore, because the blame was yours, you are on your own now.

Poor people who die in between.

Dear sirs from EMA and WHO or whatever "experts" who still insist on the false idea that "there is no evidence that the vaccine caused the deaths".

You like very much the phrase "there is no evidence" that this or that treatment causes any injury, but allow me to tell this:

The absence of evidence is not an evidence it self or at all. Absense of evidence is not even scientific. Science is about evidence and not about absense of evidences.

You say: if people die, this is not an evidence, if people dont die, then it is an evidence, what kind of logic is that?

Post Edited (isitlyme) : 3/18/2021 8:38:57 AM (GMT-6)

potsnpans said...
CWL: Was their study ever published? I could not find it.

Other positive news is that cases seem to be less severe in those who do get reinfected.

I think in cases where people can be proven to have already had covid, they should be getting put somewhere in the back of the line for vax.

I don't know but here is an article about it on their website also from Oct 2020.

https://uahs.arizona.edu/news/uarizona-health-sciences-study-shows-sars-cov-2-antibodies-provide-lasting-immunity

potsnpans said...
isitlyme: sometimes a person will get hit by a purple bus after getting vaccinated.

Of course potsnpans, a person" and "sometimes" will get hit, but not thousands around the world will get hit by a purple bus, in the same period of time or dozens in the same place, at the same period of time.

If that was the case, the company in charge of that purple buses, would be shutdown a long time ago.

An analogy used just to make it appear that it was an unfortunate accident, wish is not comparable to vaccine deaths. Not a good one. Just like the "usual experts" or better, the "usual suspects"

But thank you anyway.

https://pledgetimes.com/a-43-year-old-teacher-dies-in-marbella-who-was-vaccinated-with-astrazeneca/

https://finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/1-dane-died-blood-clot-091629568.html

A couple more hit by a purple bus

Post Edited (isitlyme) : 3/18/2021 10:16:58 AM (GMT-6)

potsnpans said...
Thousands are not getting blood clots..

I was speaking about deaths in all vaccine related death events, not only to blood clots. You know, blot clots is not the only death related adverse event, there are several more, happening shortly, like hours or within one day of the first shot. Just check VAERS closely, you can find the reported, cannot imagine the under reported

"Just check VAERS closely, you can find the reported, cannot imagine the under reported"

..any evidence pointing towards deaths being underreported??

"JUST IN - EMA confirms #AstraZeneca vaccine is safe & effective after multiple European countries have halted jabs."

"However, a "warning" will be added to the product information of the #AstraZeneca vaccine outlining suspicious signs and symptoms of thromboembolic events."

Sounds about right. I don't know if antibodies cited by the Norwegian doc were taken into account, but he was convincing.

isitlyme: maybe they didn't find evidence but want to acknowledge that rates (so far) are higher than expected.

"They also didnt find that absence of evidence is an evidence, as already mentioned."

What kind of evidence would provide 100% certainty? .. can't always be black or white. Language must be carefully measured and they are using the most accurate language concerning their investigation. Maybe other countries' internal investigations (Norway) will provide the evidence you are hoping for.

Vax can still be considered safe with a warning that brings attention to a rare complication that it may or may not cause. This is not unusual and it helps to bring awareness should one of these events occur.

Post Edited (potsnpans) : 3/18/2021 11:38:04 AM (GMT-6)