Why aren't more Lyme patients using Biofeedback?

Hi, JMF. Which kind of biofeedback do you mean? There are lots of different kinds, used for different things.

Through an AmpCoil device, I have a voice analysis-based biofeedback feature that purports to tell people which infections are most in need of addressing, and which organ systems are most taxed, so that the person may then set the machine to address those things that day. The voice analysis biofeedback on the AmpCoil isn't useful more broadly, though, because which infection is most "active" changes every time you perform the analysis, even from minute to minute. So you would not, for example, find through biofeedback that Bartonella is most active and then load up on Bartonella herbs, because by the time you did, your most "active" infection might have changed. Perhaps some other biofeedback devices provide more consistent results from reading to reading?

Thank you both. Saraeli, I'm a bit fuzzy on it myself, but I gather that this type of biofeedback is a machine that they hook the patient up to. The machine "reads" what your issues are (bacteria, viruses, deficiencies, etc) and possibly even recommends what supplements, homeopathics where frequencies can be added, medications, etc are needed.

One person who had success with it went to a practitioner who uses a "computerized bioresonance version".

Ah ha!

What your speaking about has a more specific name than "biofeedback". I forget what it is, but it was mentioned here years ago. Its was more common with chiros who treat lyme.

It sounds like you’re talking about a Zyto machine or similar. Some naturopaths or chiropractors use them. I think plenty of people here have used them. One issue I recall reading was the practitioner cannot (will not) allow you to see or have a copy of the “results” for legality reasons. Therefore, you can’t get the information to use at your discretion. You are then offered treatment by the practitioner based on the “secret” results that only they know. You will essentially be their guinea pig and buy their treatments/products.

I did it once with Donna Murphy and she was awesome. It actually said I had rickettsiae and she didnt know what that was neither did i at the time. Wondering now if it was rickets lol?

One more thought. I personally believe that our emotional condition goes a long way towards illness/wellness. I had several life stressors collide at once and I'm pretty sure they are what awakened my Lyme. After that I had a few more. It was a very rough and blur of about five years total. about a year ago I felt my body/mind/spirit finally starting to deeply heal. I incorporated tapping, meditation, walks outside. My brain waves showed vast improvement in neurological tests.

JMF,

Yes. In my opinion 100% helpful and beneficial. I feel the scans get to exactly what is going on. I was just trying to say it's not a cure but it weeds out a lot of guess work. It helps our doctors work on our priorities. Apparently supporting/healing in order of priority helps better support the body. So far, I'm a believer.

WBF,

Hi. Not sure if we're allowed to name doctors on here.

Our first doctor was an LLMD.Wonderful man but decided to stop the abx route.

Since then we see doctors in Kansas. I'm guessing I can't say the name on here. It's a clinic known for treating LD and this is where we have found the most success. First timers have to spend two weeks then it is one week after that. I can't say enough great things about our doctors. They helped my son and myself so much. I don't think my son would have finished school without it.

There is also a holistic practitioner we see for maintenance where we live. I haven't seen her in about a year due to Covid. She also opened up a second office in Florida so she isn't around much. She has several machines and scans the body as well. I was having terrible word mixing in the beginning of Lyme and that is when I found her. She put me on machines and gave me homeopathic meds and it went away in three days. Comes back now and then when I'm fatigued and/or stressed but nothing like it was.

Hope that helps.

JMF,

I completely agree with you. With something so serious I think the correct Lyme tests, coupled with a doctor/chiropractor/naturopathic, who really understands this complex disease is important.

That said, his scan could have been right at the time. Our bodies change every day, even within hours. Your niece's Lyme may have been dormant at the time of testing and what was making her sick was the Myco/Candida.

I'm not saying this is the case, I'm saying it's possible. I've had several scans where my Lyme isn't present. And I can always tell when it goes dormant - but EBV, toxicity, or inflammation may still be wreaking havoc.

I try to no longer apply labels. I like to know what is present but I view everything as living under the umbrella of my immune system, and that is what needs boosting. I know my son and I had Lyme for years but we were healthy and strong so we didn't even know it was there. I also know the two things that happened for each of us that knocked us down and woke it up.

JMF,

This is why the reports can be informative. That said the mold sensitivity may be from LD. Not saying there isn't a mold issue but there is also mold in leaves, every day life, etc... Since LD my son and I have allergies we never had (guessing many here do). We had to give our beloved dog to my mother-in-law and have terrible allergies to dust/mold -old books are the worst. I also had Bell's Palsey and looked like I had a stroke in the beginning. It was mainly in right eye. It is pretty much gone back to normal. Only I notice the slightest droop now. So please let the employee know things can get better and we do heal.

My veteran LLMD team uses biofeedback (specifically Zyto) and they claim it can be useful for patients in certain situations like in determining the strain of Lyme you are infected with when its hiding or to complement and confirm the state of health of the patient. While I personally think it requires a lot more validation as a science, I do fully and completely trust my doctors which are hard core scientists.

My only complaint is biofeedback is not covered by most insurance plans and so it can get very expensive and I think our limited money as a patient is far better spent elsewhere.