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Posted 9/1/2021 10:56 PM (GMT -5)
Has anyone had success treating bartonella with these three? Also I’ve been having chest pain lately and I read chest wall pain is common in bartonella. I just try to remind myself that it’s not covid but it’s got me a little panicked now and then. Anyone else have this symptom?
Posted 9/2/2021 4:48 AM (GMT -5)
i haven't used this exact combo - but i have used doxy 200mg / day and azithro, 500mg/day together with buhner herbs for lyme for 6months with only moderate benefit.

i do believe oil of oregano is a decent addition for bart persister cells - but also beware it can be very aggressive on the gut lining - and there are multiple threads here where people had trouble with that over time. this is worth noting as the bart protocols are typically very long - and need to be maintainable long term for benefit.

Dr SP uses liposomal OoO for thsi reason - apparently - according to Dr SP the liposomal form increases absorption dramatically - reducing the dose needed to be effective - and thereby eases ill effects on the gut.

alternatively, methylene blue is another anti-persister agent that works well with azithromycin in the studies on biofilm, log phase and persister forms by Zhang et al
Posted 9/4/2021 12:53 AM (GMT -5)
Thanks! This combo is on Marty Ross’s list of bartonella killing combos. I don’t think I’m ready to try rifampin and I know I can’t do methylene blue because it interferes with meds I’m taking. Hoping I can ease into it.
Posted 9/4/2021 3:53 PM (GMT -5)
I might try this combo soon with clarithromycin instead of azithromycin.
Posted 9/4/2021 4:13 PM (GMT -5)
yep - i am planning on doing a few rounds of clarithro and rifampicin along with MB - if i can get my heart palpitations to settle down - due to the Long QT interval thing with clarithro it seems wise not to take high doses while its acting up
Posted 9/6/2021 3:33 PM (GMT -5)
Garzie are you taking coq10? It might help you. It's good for the heart apparently.
And mitochondria also.
Posted 9/7/2021 5:32 AM (GMT -5)

RainyCloud said...
Garzie are you taking coq10? It might help you. It's good for the heart apparently.
And mitochondria also.

Thanks Rainy - yep, i have read that too
i am currently taking 200mg per day

i have tried up to 6 x 200mg per day in the past when it was really bad and worrying me - but after around 1 week or more at that dose i could detect no effect / change - so i took it back to a 1x a day as a kind of insurance dose

i also take hawthorn berries as a tea 2x a day - but cannot tell if it is helping -

also Acetyl L carnitine - which i think is supposed to help support the heart

it seems to be a really common thing amongst lyme sufferers - but exactly how it is caused i don't know - i assume its some form of autonomic nervous system dysfunction - or maybe some kind of neuropathy in the nerves that cause the heart rhythm stabilisation in the hear muscle itself

if anyone has any ideas of the actual mechanism - or what may help i would be interested
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