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Posted 1/11/2021 5:12 PM (GMT -5)
I definitely had improvement from pyrantel pamoate. I take this one https://www.amazon.com/Pyrantel-Pamoate-Suspension-bottle-Generic/dp/B019QSE476/ref=sxts_sxwds-bia-wc-nc-drs1_0?cv_ct_cx=pyrantel+pamoate&dchild=1&keywords=pyrantel+pamoate&pd_rd_i=B019QSE476&pd_rd_r=ed2fef2d-ccb7-44b0-8979-e97d2a25c7a1&pd_rd_w=g8a3o&pd_rd_wg=zNEqx&pf_rd_p=a64002b9-9c26-4361-b8a1-b0f5a4835670&pf_rd_r=10WTW0DE0CRH8M6SKQW7&psc=1&qid=1610403591&sr=1-1-38d0a374-3318-4625-ad92-b6761a63ecf6

I don't mean to spread rumors, but it is true that wormwood (not sweet wormwood, which is something different) has compounds similar to marijuana? I did feel a little strange mentally, but I attributed it to a herx reaction.

Also, I had an interesting experience with a parasite cleanse: I was taking one with similar ingredients to Brenda's, and feeling a bit better, but not really a lot different, and then a healthy family member without Lyme tried taking some, and they felt absolutely horrible!
Posted 1/11/2021 9:23 PM (GMT -5)
Compounds in wormwood are used to make absinthe. It's not related to cannabis. The concentrations and processing that make a wormwood supplement would not have the same effects as absinthe. I was concerned about this, too, before I took wormwood, and looked into it. smile
Posted 1/11/2021 9:29 PM (GMT -5)
I’ve seen information which states Alinia shouldn’t be taken if one has flukes, as that can push them into the liver. Well, Blakeley took Alinia before I knew this, and no testing was done to that effect by prescribing LLMD so not sure about that.
And does Alinia kill liver flukes? Not sure.

Regarding Brenda’s herbal cleanse, that is strange that it wouldn’t cause effect especially if you had a parasite issue. It feels like such a great experiment and we have to make an educated guess as to what meds/steps to take next.
Posted 1/12/2021 10:09 AM (GMT -5)
Brenda’s cleanse is just mild, supporting herbs. Like I said in the other post, I thought most “cleanses” were the olive oil and lemon or grapefruit juice regimens that people drink and then pass “stones” afterwards.

There’s nothing I know of about Tumeric, milk thistle, fennel, and dandelion that should cause a herx.
Posted 1/12/2021 10:52 PM (GMT -5)
I would find a doc who treats parasites often. Dr Y in St louis helped me.
He writes a monthly piece that he archives at his site-Prevention and Healing-often its about parasites.
You may want to read them.
Ive met many other patients with stomach issues there who got better after doing parasites cleanse-besides me
Posted 1/13/2021 6:16 AM (GMT -5)
I am going to ask LLMD at next appt this month about Rx for parasites. I don’t want Blakeley to go months on the herbs and it not fully do the job. If LLMD doesn’t
Know about the protocol, I may contact Dr Y, although I wonder if he does tele-appts, as travel that far for now would not be possible.

I read many articles at Dr Y site. Thank you for recommending. I also read info on another site detailing the protocol without dosages but the meds listed to take in order were: biltricide, pyrantel, ivermectin, albemdazole, Alinia.

He said may have to do multiple rounds of the above. Which brings another question to mind. How does one know they are cleared of the parasites or if they need more rounds?
Posted 1/13/2021 6:20 AM (GMT -5)
Also, different topic about this, I was speaking w a friend who worked at a vets office for years about these meds. She understood the idea of treating parasites but was shocked at the length of treatment for the meds. She said in the animal world, you would give one dose and then maybe another in two weeks for any eggs that may have hatched in between. Even for dogs that came in with heavy infestations, she said they would only receive that same dose.

I know it’s not the same but wonder why it doesn’t get rid of the infestation in people like that? Or maybe the animals aren’t really getting totally cleared. I was just thinking about it.
Posted 10/9/2021 8:21 AM (GMT -5)
Hi folks,

In relation to the above discussion, some herbs can contain toxins that can cause reactions, such as oxalates.

Insomnia, rashes, muscle pains, anxiety, and other issues can be provoked.

Not saying that these toxins are the cause of reactions in all cases but certainly something to consider when taking a herbal product.

Thanks,

Post Edited (Technosmith) : 10/9/2021 7:38:02 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 10/9/2021 5:55 PM (GMT -5)
Technosmith,

Thanks. Do you happen to know or have a list of which herbs are oxalates?
Posted 10/10/2021 3:35 AM (GMT -5)
Hi WalkingbyFaith,

Different herbal products contain varying levels of oxalate. Some have a very tiny amount, some a moderate amount, and others very large amounts.

I have a spreadheet which provides the levels of oxalate within various herbs or herbal-based supplements (and foods), although of course only a certain number have been tested from all that exist.
The spreadsheet details if a product tests as very low, low, moderate, high, or extra high in oxalate and gives absolute values per 100mg. I got this spreadheet from the Facebook 'Trying Low Oxalate' group.

I can email you the spreadheet, if you message me your email address, or you could becme a member of that Facebook group and obtain the s[preadsheet yourself. The group may also be able to provide further information relating to oxalates.

Thanks,

Phil
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