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Posted 5/15/2024 6:28 AM (GMT -5)
Hi all,

Wanted to share a experience with this pills. I took one and in a couple of hours had terrible pains. The next day I had various bouts of anxiety and tiredness.

Does it sound like Herx? At the moment im not on ABX

Please share your experiences with or without ABX

Bee
Posted 5/15/2024 6:32 AM (GMT -5)
yep - it sounds like a Herx - especially if you are reasonably sensitive to herbs or abx

i had to start on 1 drop a day of a dilute oil of oregano product - its very potent stuff
and the capsules are typically several times this dose

the liposomal formulation is also intended to make it stronger for the same dose - by increasing absorption
so i would say that's all consistent with it causing a herx reaction
Posted 5/15/2024 6:38 AM (GMT -5)
Thank you Garzie, I am suppsed to take these with Rifabutin against Bart, but wanted to try it alone to see effect.
Posted 5/15/2024 6:41 AM (GMT -5)
Anyone used this pills alone, without ABX?
Posted 5/15/2024 7:08 AM (GMT -5)
I've been on these 3 for 18 months give or take.
In the beginning it took a bit to get used to, definitely a herx like Garzie said.
And now I barely notice taking it at all. I think oregano is the strongest one in these 3.
Posted 5/15/2024 7:12 AM (GMT -5)
Thank you rainy!

Do you take it with ABX or alone? Do you think it got rid of the Bart?

Bee.
Posted 5/15/2024 7:18 AM (GMT -5)
Hi LittleBee,

No problem smile I take it with ABX and Fluconazole and I do believe it played a role in getting rid of the Bartonella. But I don't think it would have been enough on its own. If you're going the herbal route for Bartonella, you might want to pair it with Houttuynia and Sida Acuta.
Posted 5/15/2024 2:34 PM (GMT -5)
it might work for some people on its own - but i think the doses would have to be huge - and that has its own issues

it helped me - when used alongside a comprehensive herbal program for lyme and bartonella

so i would use it with herbs or abx or both
Posted 5/15/2024 4:38 PM (GMT -5)
Thank you Rainy and Garzie, I was a little bit concerned about this herbs breaking the biofilms and not killing the bugs.

I have read some papers that say they kill the bugs, what do you all think?


Bee.
Posted 5/16/2024 6:14 AM (GMT -5)
there are no herbs or antibiotics that can eradicate all microorganisms in our bodies so i think its a mute point

treatment is more a case of chipping away at the bacterial load and improving the immune system - until eventually the immune system can take back its proper role of keeping all microbial populations in check.

so just take a combination of antimicrobials and biofilm agents - rather than just one
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