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How to increase blood IgG?, I Might try COLOSTRUM and maybe test afterwards (EDIT: HERXED from it!!)

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Posted 7/26/2024 6:11 PM (GMT -5)
In my quest for increasing IgG without IVIG ($$), I might try colostrum first.

This might also increase my low gamma globulin protein, and low white blood cell count (They are all related).

Anything I should know about this?

Any other supplement ideas that can increase these?

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Some of you might remember I have IgG below the range levels. My natural killer cells and T cells increased a little bit as noticed on my CD57 test Last week.

In conventional medicine talk, it’s technically called immune deficiency, or hypogammaglobulimia.

Thanks

Post Edited (astroman) : 7/28/2024 12:10:52 PM (GMT-8)

Posted 7/27/2024 11:01 AM (GMT -5)
There was a betterhealthguy pod with an ozone doc who was big on the th1/th2 balance.

He wasn’t a fan of IVIG in relation to NK cells. (If I’m recalling this correctly) IGG=th2, NK=th1. They push and pull on each other. Th2 dominance = lower th1 and vice versa. Hence why some chronic illness people get stuck in an inflamed state and are negative for antibodies (which is what shoemaker’s theory was for CIRS in mold - these people are innate immune system dominate). His experience was adding IVIG to a th2 dominant individual can be counterproductive and further tank th1.

Now colostrum is more comprehensive immune wise I believe vs JUST increasing IGG. It’s the whole immune system.

Something like transfer factor multi-immune from research nutritionals is geared towards th1 support. The presence of GI parasites can also be a major player in being stuck in th-2 dominance. Infections in general. It’s the whole shooting down the incoming missiles vs destroying the factories that make them angle, you need a bit of both.
Posted 7/27/2024 11:16 AM (GMT -5)
There are also supplements for sale with only IgG (ie. IgG Protect by ortho).
It should address the potential issue loski pointed out with colostrum being more comprehensive.
Posted 7/27/2024 12:23 PM (GMT -5)
this might be of interest

it seems some herbs stimulate IgG production
eg
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/s0378874111003539
Posted 7/27/2024 12:45 PM (GMT -5)
I have kind of ditched all the th1 th2 stuff, because it’s too confusing and when you Google it, it’s very contradicting.

Edit: I did take a test for that about eight years ago from a non-insurance taking doctor. My results were that I was right smack dab in the middle of TH1 and TH2. At that time, I was not dominant and either one.

What I do know by conventional medicine means : I am under the range in IgG. This is not normal, so I’d like to increase it Somehow, if possible without going the full IVIG route, which needs insurance approval and can still be very costly.

Both of my vehicles together are not even worth $5000, I’m not gonna shell out five grand US dollars for someone stick a needle from a IV bag in my arm.

Post Edited (astroman) : 7/27/2024 10:34:30 AM (GMT-8)

Posted 7/27/2024 1:04 PM (GMT -5)
TH1 vs TH2 is a bit loose and annoying if you try to apply it to cytokines because they actually exist in networks and are interconnected in complex ways - so many of them can be a part of either system.

however - when it comes to immunoglobulins - these are basically antibodies - and all antibodies are part of the adaptive immune response - ie TH2 - so in that sense its clear cut

i think Loski is just pointing out that there i a kind of balance or dance going on between these systems - and usually when one is high - the other is low and vice-versa
Posted 7/28/2024 10:05 AM (GMT -5)
There's also a product mega igg2000 by micro biome labs. It's taken from bovine serum as opposed to milk.
Posted 7/28/2024 10:30 AM (GMT -5)

Bailey said...
There's also a product mega igg2000 by micro biome labs. It's taken from bovine serum as opposed to milk.

Thanks I think I’ll order some of that since it’s milk free.
Posted 7/28/2024 10:37 AM (GMT -5)
Yes, I just edited my title Sunday morning.

I think I’m Herxing from this jarrow milk based Colostrum. I feel like crap, slight headache, dizzy and it’s already afternoon.

Last night felt changing waves of warm and cold throughout the night trying sleep. I was only sleeping in five minutes spurts. I thought I’d mention that.

Post Edited (astroman) : 7/28/2024 12:14:32 PM (GMT-8)

Posted 7/29/2024 7:31 PM (GMT -5)
Wow, I've been feeling similar but I didn't take any colostrum 😭. Guess you'll have to see if you feel better after things settle.
Posted 8/2/2024 1:28 PM (GMT -5)
Felt better after not Taking colostrum four days after.

I just took some again Friday morning and I think I’m herxing again .There’s not enough dairy in this to react to dairy.

I googled this, I apparently it’s not uncommon for the first week.

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I also googled colostrum for gastrointestinal complications of common variable immuno deficiency. (hypogamma, Under class, IGg)

Pub med has a full page on this and sounds very promising.

Of course, this is something The immunologist said nothing about, After all, it’s a supplement, not a Expensive prescription.

Post Edited (astroman) : 8/2/2024 11:01:16 AM (GMT-8)

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