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Posted 9/25/2024 2:16 PM (GMT -5)
Hi all,

Has someone already tried nicotine patches?
There is a FB group https://www.facebook.com/groups/273324588446377 and a website + link to video and protocol
https://linktr.ee/thenicotinetest?fbclid=IwY2xjawFhPqZleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHQr6CDvBow3B1YwaqfdPxnJKhPiHtBjh_GP8itzu5N_Gky-m7gOEBPYffg_aem_9hGTyAtvB5i2S82fC06gSQ

It seems helping a lot of people with CFS, ME, long covid, lyme, mold disease, EBV,...

I cannot explain the whole theory because i'm not speaking english, but it is interesting if you're looking into it.
It's about the acetylcholine receptor and the spike protein. People who use the patches can have more energy, feel better, can have a better HRV,...
They say it isn't addictive, because of the slow release of nicotine. There are some researchers and doctors who recommend it also.

Are there people here who have tried the nicotine patches already?
Posted 9/25/2024 2:59 PM (GMT -5)
i tried them some time ago after reading similar articles - also tried the under the tongue dissolvable things

did nothing for me

while some aspects of smoking addiction are driven by habitual behaviours as well as the chemical addition - nicotine is recognised as a highly addictive chemical, regardless of the method of application - so on that statement alone i would be wary of that source

plenty of sources for this
eg
https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/tobacco-nicotine-e-cigarettes/nicotine-addictive
and
[url]https://www.ucsfhealth.org/conditions/nicotine-dependence[url]
Posted 9/27/2024 11:21 AM (GMT -5)
There is some data out there around keeping dosing below xyz amount over a certain period can dramatically change the addictive potential of nicotine. Patches are thought to be the best way to go about this (not that it’s without addiction risks/forming dependency).

I’ve also read data around clearing spike proteins like you mentioned.

However the data out there around long term brain health (something like a spect scan) when it comes to nicotine is rather concerning. It’s a vasoconstrictor and you can see that outcome long term in many scans.

As far as benefits when it comes to CFS - is likely from neurotransmitter modulation vs actually fixing any dysfunction.
Posted 9/30/2024 8:51 AM (GMT -5)
Thank you both for your reactions. It also feels a bit iffy, precisely because cigarettes aren't exactly healthy ;-)

It's hard to know if the patches are good or bad and the side effects, so maybe i will try it and then evaluate it.
There is a doctor Dr. Bryan Ardis who recommends it together with some supplements like EDTA, apple pectine, nac, vitamin c and zinc.
Especcialy for long covid it has good results for as i see reactions from people in the FB group.

On rumble there are some videos of this doctor, but as i say i don't know it if it's good or not.
This doctor says it isn't addictive, but he says the additives in cigarettes (pyrazines) are addictive.
I think at this moment it's also a bit of a hype.

But i think i will try it maybe for a short period because i'm also at a point i want my life back, but that may be known to people who have been chronically ill for a long time (I have now been ill for almost 3.5 years since Lyme). Sometimes i want to try everything, but i always have to weigh things up and look for what helps best.

I will also keep track of my findings and write them down here, if they are of use to others.
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