Swollen or tender lymph nodes?

I had that on my left side - most all my symptoms were on my upper left side.
I found some relief taking warm Epson salt baths

I did have a sore throat one day but it went away I don’t feel sick just have the regular herx symptoms from the treatment. I’m on vial 7 but not sure if I should start taking something for the lymph my naturapath didn’t give anything for it. I’ve been applying castor packs but I’m going on 5days.
Should I take oregano oil pills? Or possibly smart silver?

Thank you for that advice I’m pretty new to herbs and supplements. I didn’t add anything else in but what’s good to detox?
I already take probiotics in Am and Pm and I take 4 capsules of omniessentials which has a mix of minerals and herbs.
I also take propoloplus which has Astragalus Osha Propolis Lungwort Lomantium.

good advice there from Sara

-start with the basics

-less is often more / better - especially at first if experiencing herx like effects - or if you are sensitive

its tempting to put our faith in supplements, products, preparations etc - but they are unlikely to help much if we don't have the basics of diet, lifestyle etc on track

lyme is a Journey

everyone's situation is different and everyone makes different decisions on which way to go -
we are often forced to do this based on relatively little real knowledge - as the disease is still not fully understood and there is no established standard of care

that said i think that logically the best approach if you want to have the best chance of recovering is to follow the path that has helped the most people recover before you - if that doesn't work then by all means work your way down the list trying in turn the more esoteric things.

as far as we can tell from the studies we have and the anecdotal reports this list seems to be:

1, antibiotics - often combination antibiotics if you have been sick for more than 6 months

2, herbs - these seem to have helped the most people after antibiotics - herbs do have scientific evidence supporting their use for both direct antimicrobial effects and immune modulating / anti inflammatory effects - but it seems relatively rare for chronic lyme sufferers to get to full remission with herbs alone - it does happen - we have had a few people on the forum who did this on the forum over the years - but it seems much less common than with antibiotics - is did comprehensive herbal treatment for 5+ years but only got to around 50% better

3, after that is everything else - perhaps Rife is fairly high up the list here, some swear by Hyperbaric oxygen therapy and after that there is a very long list of less and less scientifically supported therapies - some of which have very high price tags and are marketed more like a pyramid selling scheme - so the further you go down the list its as well to be aware that you are entering the realms of the bogus and exploitative practitioners. some claim to be based on science - but when anyone with a basic level of scientific understanding looks into their claims and references its often a tissue of lies. others forgo all but the most cursory scientific claims and rely instead on testimonials or influencers to sell their product.

there are still quite a lot of things we do not know about how chronic illness works - how the immune system works - and a few of these esoteric treatments may turn out to have a basis in fact that we simply do not understand yet - so i am not ruling them out completely - but a lot of them will not - and since with todays level of knowledge we don't know which are which - relying on treatments in this area is more like a lottery.

with this in mind i find it hard to justify starting with the more esoteric

the same goes for diagnosis - i don't think we should rely on things like bio resonance, magnetic pair techniques etc when there is no credible scientific evidence these work - and when there are more robust methods available

i know this may not be what you are hoping to hear - since you have already invested time and money in your current direction - but you asked for input and this is the best honest input i can give.

i hope its of some help

self treating Lyme is a challenge -

its s steep learning curve - as there is so much to learn - so i would advocate finding an recognised LLMD if you are at all able - this often has quite a high expense
but its important to also account for the expense of not earning for several years as the real cost on the other side of the equation.

here are some sites with a LLMD search function


project lyme
https://projectlyme.org/resource/how-to-find-a-doctor/

lyme disease.org
https://www.lymedisease.org/find-lyme-literate-doctors/

registered ILADS doctors
https://www.ilads.org/patient-care/provider-search/


if you have given it careful though and are still committed to self treating - most of the well known LLMDs have books or videos or good websites with good information including protocols - which are a good place to start

Buhner's book - healing lyme - second edition - is excellent - it includes a good deal of information on the mechanisms of the disease and focusses on herbal treatments.

another highly recommended book is by a LLMD - Richard Horowitz "How can i get better" - which is also excellent - but focussed on more pharmaceutical approaches - antibiotics

there is also a very good grounding in diagnosis and treatment of lyme and coinfections in Dr Burrascano's ILADS treatment guidelines - which are available free to download here - this is not a full book - so less intimidating and as such a good place to start http://www.lymenet.org/burrguide200810.pdf

antibiotics can be purchased at affordable prices from a number of sources ( a search on here will find multiple threads and sources ) - if you have relatives in Mexico that would certainly be an option - in most countries its entirely legal to purchase abroad and bring into the country for personal use.

keep in mind that for many people it is not just a case of popping a bunch of pills or potions and being cured - things like
-diet
-lifestyle
-stress management
-sleep
are usually equally important - if not essential - to help your body fight the infection and recover

as with any medication - you should also at the very least familiarise yourself with the dosing, contra indications, side effects and interactions data before embarking - sites like
https://www.drugs.com/doxycycline.html are available for this

i hope its of some help

A couple more websites to check out if you are considering self-treating:

treatlyme.net (Specific protocols, very step-by-step and well-organized information)

rawlsmd.com (Explains well how many factors are involved with these illnesses, and why people need more than just antimicrobials to get well)

There is no surefire treatment for chronic tick-borne disease, and I'm sure you've already noticed that what works well for one person might do nothing for someone else or even make them worse. Treatment needs to be dynamic, responsive, comprehensive (not just antimicrobial), and individualized. Long-term pharmaceutical antibiotics do make some people well, but forums are filled with people who have taken them for years and are still sick. You'll find people who healed using herbal medicine protocols, rife machines, pulsed electromagentic frequency devices, traditional Chinese medicine, extreme dietary changes, hyperthermia, phage therapy, stem cell therapy, SOT, and loads of other things. You'll try what resonates with you best, and if those things don't work, then you will try some things that don't resonate, and you'll just keep trying the next thing until something helps. I don't mean to make you feel more overwhelmed and discouraged, but honestly still feeling unwell at this point in treatment is the norm. Unfortunately this is a long haul with no quick fix.

Also keep in mind that many LLMDs are trained in using herbal protocols alongside or instead of pharmaceutical ones. I have allergies to two major families of antibiotics, making the usual combinations difficult to accomplish, so I never tried a pharmaceutical approach, and none of my LLMDs found this frustrating. A good LLMD should have lots of tools at their disposal, not just drugs.

And finally, don't underestimate the importance of properly managing stress, gut, diet, nervous system, microbiome, sleep, toxicity exposure, etc. These things help get your body back to a condition in which it can keep infections in check properly, and normalize functions. Stay patient with yourself.

Do you like and trust your naturopath? I get the impression that you do not have confidence in the current approach.

be aware that bio scans and muscle testing are not scientifically supported methods of diagnosing lyme disease.

in addition the symptoms of lyme disease are mostly highly unspecific - fatigue, muscle aches, pain etc - which means that many other things can cause similar symptoms - making diagnosis by symptoms alone very challenging ( known tick bites and of course the bulls eye rash make this somewhat more straightforward )

in your case you mention auto-immune disease ( Sjorgen's) which raises the chances of other auto-immune issues being present - many of which often have overlapping symptoms with lyme disease and as such raises the possibility of alternate explanations for your symptoms.

ie you may have lyme disease - but its not at all certain based on what you have shared so far.

if it were me i would want to bottom out the diagnosis question - rather than rely on esoteric and unproven practices for life altering decisions - before going further down the treatment path

Note - if you have chronic lyme disease you are likely to spend years of life and many thousands of dollars treating it - in addition to years of lost income - these are years and money you could spend treating the actual cause - if it is not Lyme disease)

again - i hope its of some help