What Kind of Tremor Gets Worse When Lifting Items or Weights? Lyme? Bartonella?

i think we have discussed it before - but just adding as i see you have no other responses

bartonella is my best guess

bartonella is known to cause all sorts of sudden muscle failure issues - Dr SP talks about sudden weakness in legs and patients collapsing with what he calls "breakaway failure" - as a hallmark of bartonella

he also describes any buzzing sensations as hallmark of bartonella - and we know bartonella also causes facilitations in muscles - eg often in calves

so while not exactly what you are describing - i believe these manifestations are all triggered by the same basic mechanism - microvascular dysfunction in the tissues driven by bart -
hypoperfusion of muscle tissue will cause full or partial, one time or repeating failures in muscles
it can also cause involuntary contractions in the muscle - experienced as facilitations, trembling, vibrating, weakness etc
if you add these thigs up you will see the kind of exacerbated tremors when lifting things or trying to hold them in position is stressing the muscle causing it to try to contract to support the weight - but at less than maximal force
when we do this - some fibres get tired - and get rested - and others are recruited to take over
this is going on continuously in all of us at the level of the automatic function of local nerve bundles and is not perfect in any of us - ie we will all tremble or tremor after a while
in persons where the micro vascular function is compromised - this process will be more lumpy, random and unpredictable and the body will struggle to keep things smooth - hence increased tremors

i am not sure you will find anything more definition or meaningful than this - as the exact manifestation of small vessel disease varies from person to person - and we all have other factors in the mix complicating the picture

in terms of what to do about it - i think the ideal would be to tackle the root cause - ie the infection - but i know you are struggling with that

i dont know if you can tolerate anti-fibrin agents - like bromelain ( they caused herx when taken alongside bart herbs for me - so i would approach with caution ) - but if you can - it may help clear some of the fibrin deposits in the microcirculation and improve things a little

i hope its of some help

we do know bartonella causes most of its symptoms by damaging the microcirculation

but its not only via fibrin deposits

it infects the cells that line the blood vessels - including the tiny capillaries, venules and equivalents in the lymphatic system - and it causes chronic inflammation in all of these - these cells then release further inflammatory compounds in response - and its this inflammation that causes a lot of the dysfunction in the microcirculation

there is also some indication from studies using immunofluorescence microscopy with antibody tagged fluorescent dyes that bartonella resides on nerves also - and therefore they may well be causing some direct effects on the nervous system also - v little is known about that

finally - because it infects endothelial cells - and these are the same type of cells that line the gut - its likely that there is a further mechanism whereby it interferes with the gut permeability and in doing so dysregulated the hosts immune system causing both gut oriented and systemic effects -

its a complex disease

i hope its of some help

Garzie said...
we do know bartonella causes most of its symptoms by damaging the microcirculation

Thanks for the detailed info, Garzie! It makes sense that tackling the infection and reducing inflammation are both key factors. I'm definitely looking into ways to address those.
Speaking about fibrin phenomenon; Do you think bromelain and lumbrokinase are the best options we have for dealing with fibrin buildup, or is there something else that could work faster?