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Posted 8/29/2024 4:45 AM (GMT -5)
I have heard a lot of teasel root but I don't seem to see much about people with chronic lyme taking it (or maybe I'm mistaken). Is that because it's better for acute lyme? Is this a beneficial herb to take for chronic lyme?

Do any of you use teasel? or have you tried it in the past?

I'm currently taking, cats claw, japanese knotweed, Chinese skullcap, crytolepis, artemesia and neem.

I'm considering adding in sida acuta, houttuynia, red root and potentially teasel? at the minute I'm just in the research stage for these herbs. Thank you!
Posted 8/29/2024 6:49 AM (GMT -5)
i have used it

originally when testing it in isolation i was surprised to find the herx reactions from it were as strong as things like sida acuta and cryptolepis at the same dose - so i cant be sure what its hitting - i have lyme and bartonella - but it seems potent - especially the Asian version - which makes a very dark - almost black tincture
the European version seems paler - and the root is super absorbent - so hard to tincture - but still seems potent


i now take all of these herbs in what i consider safe long term doses - which took me around 12 month to build up to tolerating - and while i think they were helpful in getting me to 50% recovered -and so i still take them for that reason - for me this was not enough to resolve lyme and bart

its a little hard to understand how herbs/drugs/supplements etc can cause so much herx like reactions at low doses - and yet when you build up the dose to 5 or 10x the original amount that caused a pretty strong herx - they still dont seem to be enough to clear the infection fully

i hope its of some help
Posted 8/29/2024 10:37 AM (GMT -5)
I don't of hear many people taking teasel. My guess is that Stephen Buhner says it's "hit or miss" and therefore doesn't recommend it in his protocols, even if he might recommend it on an individual basis.

I do know someone who credits teasel flower essence with her remission from Lyme.
Posted 8/29/2024 11:49 AM (GMT -5)
https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=2734062&p=2

Traveller got well without using antibiotics.
I believe Teasel was part of her “recipe”
Posted 8/29/2024 12:01 PM (GMT -5)
I think it’s mostly bc Buhner doesn’t recommend for chronic Lyme. I tried it and am thinking of going back to it. The herx was the most intense I’ve ever experienced from anything. I herx bad from most things but teasel herx was really bad. It’s gotta be hitting some serious bacteria. I think it’s definitely worth trying. Houttuynia was the 2nd worst herx I experienced. I think it’s a great one to add if you have Bart and Cryptolepis as well. Red root is good to help you detox. All the best to you!
Posted 8/29/2024 1:45 PM (GMT -5)
the nice thing its easy to do and it grows everywhere. Storl is a big fan of it. He wrote a book about his lyme story and healing story with teasel root. For me it didnt do so much... But i will try to harvest some this autum and make some tincture out of it. I will have a look i still got the book somwhere and maybe find some more information for you
Posted 12/10/2024 10:18 PM (GMT -5)
I want to try this! I read that it could be good for tendon issues from Lyme.
Posted 12/18/2024 3:01 PM (GMT -5)
there are two main species used medicinally

the Asian or chinese version Dipsacus chinensis ( also Dipsacus japonicus)
or
the European version Dipsacus sylvestris

i have used both - but the asian version seemed stronger - the tincture was also darker

its classed as an invasive species in the USA so you may well find it there

it is the root that is used - after first being dried and then powdered - i use a blender for this

the alcohol / water ratio is usually 45% alcohol (Buhner)
herb to liquid ratio is around 1:4 or 1:5 by weight

the european variety in particular is very absorbent so makes a kind of spongy slurry at this stage - but that's fine - just makes getting a high yield a bit of a challenge as its hard to get all the liquid out without a press
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